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captaindana 
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 Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 5:18am |
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Wow Wekracer what a hay hog you have there! What model are you pulling there? We have to replace our 489 and 492 eventually and after seeing your short clip I’d think I had better lay off buying orange tractors and snow blowers and tillers and wagons and building pole sheds and balers and twin rake setups and focus on a discbine! 😳 What am I waiting for? Thanks! Dana
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wekracer
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 5:49am |
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Captain I understand. So many toys, so little money. We have a 1431, 13’. It is an older flail model. We wanted rubber rolls which I think is a 1432 but we couldn’t pass up the deal we got on it.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 7:17am |
 Joe(TX) wrote:
I have had a couple of NH mower conditioners. They will run with a lower HP tractor than a disc mower. I run 90+ HP tractors now so it is not a problem I am sold on my disc mower since I can run faster and have less problems from clogging due to fire ant mounds. Probably not a problem further north. |
This too.....I'm surprised a bit by the suggestion of putting a 185 on a discbine. Not that it won't do it, but I'd think you'd want a little more to take advantage of what one can do.
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exSW
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 7:25am |
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Discbines take more power. They're also harder on drivelines. I had a friends DX101 take the flexplate out of his 826 hydro twice before switching it to the 1066.
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allisrutledge
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 7:59am |
Tbone95 wrote:
Gary Burnett wrote:
wekracer wrote:
Dad and I have discussed fuel consumption. We don’t think the 8050 burns much more fuel than the old CA and 7’ sickle that dad mowed with when he was young.
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That had to be the biggest CA fuel hog in history.(LOL)
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On a per acre basis, I wonder how far off it really is?
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Ca at 20 hp with 6 ft cut---- 8050 at 140 hp÷ 20 Ca hp = 7x6ft =a 42 ft cut sickle. I think if they used the same power required equipment the 8050 would be more fuel efficient. Sure would get finished quicker. You got to compare the same mower. Yea I know that's crazy but how wide of cut discbine would a Ca pull ? 2ft- 3 ft? In good hay. Just thinkin
Edited by allisrutledge - 20 Dec 2019 at 8:14am
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Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns
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Tbone95
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 8:35am |
allisrutledge wrote:
Tbone95 wrote:
Gary Burnett wrote:
wekracer wrote:
Dad and I have discussed fuel consumption. We don’t think the 8050 burns much more fuel than the old CA and 7’ sickle that dad mowed with when he was young.
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That had to be the biggest CA fuel hog in history.(LOL)
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On a per acre basis, I wonder how far off it really is?
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Ca at 20 hp with 6 ft cut---- 8050 at 140 hp÷ 20 Ca hp = 7x6ft =a 42 ft cut sickle. I think if they used the same power required equipment the 8050 would be more fuel efficient. Sure would get finished quicker. You got to compare the same mower. Yea I know that's crazy but how wide of cut discbine would a Ca pull ? 2ft- 3 ft? In good hay. Just thinkin |
Hmm...well, since we're just thinking and it 6 months 'til hay makin' time....  I don't think of it that way at all, as in having to compare the same mower. In this case, we're talking acres mowed per investment in fuel. To me, that's the story, and the reason why I phrased that "question" the way that I did. That's just me. More than one way to think about it.
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Brad in WA
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 8:49am |
wekracer wrote:
Captain I understand. So many toys, so little money. We have a 1431, 13’. It is an older flail model. We wanted rubber rolls which I think is a 1432 but we couldn’t pass up the deal we got on it. |
Actually a 1431 has rubber rolls, a 1432 is a flail machine.
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DanWi
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 11:03pm |
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If you are getting the hay cut on time the 185 will do just fine with a 9ft discbine. The past couple of years because of all the rain we have had to finish 1st crop around the 1st of July to get dry hay and with the 190xt you could tell the mower was back there running in 6th gear.
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AC720Man
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Posted: 21 Dec 2019 at 7:32pm |
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We continue to use our AC390 haybine. Recent upgrades were tiger teeth knives, bolts instead of rivets, and new guards. Cuts the thick orchard grass much better. We cut less than 30 acres each cutting. It has been a good machine but eventually it will need to be replaced. Ive run the NH discbine for my best friend a lot. It is a flail machine and is an absolute mowing machine. We will probably upgrade to a nice used one some day. Looked a really nice one this summer, but it was $14k!!! Ouch. Hard to justify with the limited acres we have.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Mikez
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Posted: 22 Dec 2019 at 2:43pm |
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When I first bought the discbine. Was hired to do some custom straw baleing. So I had done a 4 acre hay field of my own then went to the spring wheat, after about another 4 or 5 acres found an abandoned guide wire anchor and it took one of the gear boxes to one of the turtles. Luckily the power company paid for it. Other then that haven't had any issues with it. Ten or eleven years now.
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