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Diffrence between a 653 and H4
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    Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 7:53am
Can someone tell me the difference between a 653 and a H4 . years mad the same. motor the same .  tranny same etc. thanks  norm
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lever steer / pedal steer - top track carrier roller stand one faces in other faces out .
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Instrumentation on the Dash is similar - layout of gauges differs. Also HD4 has dash lighting two locations so gauges can be seen at night. 

On HD4 Loader Machines vs. 655 Loader there was a serial number break on the loader cylinders used. 

HD4 Series II became the basis for the 650 series machines. Engine horsepower was increased from 52 HP in the HD4 to 59 HP in the 650 series. 

Track Assemblies changed as tractor weight increased from 8,500 to 8,900 pounds. 

Excerpts above from Allis Chalmers Construction Machinery and Industrial Equipment - author Norm Swinford. 


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Very interesting.  Thanks
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does anyone know where the converter filter and transmission filter is located? Also I'm having trouble with my machine. it goes great in forward but will not go into reverse. any ideas??
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shuttle valve problem - check for broken spring in the unit on left side of operators station - has spring on each side of valve shuttle - known to break 
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