differences between a D17 series 4 and others?

Good 3pt and live hyd. Gary IN

Chuck - just comparing the Series III to Series IV changes - yes the independent hydraulics driving via a hollow quill shaft from the flywheel to the old belt pulley location. Hydraulic fluid capacity I think was increased by 2 quarts in the torque tube. Cessna type hydraulic controls were moved from the left steering column to the right fender side. Traction booster lever & depth control levers were right behind them. Controls included lift arms and one or two DUAL remote rams at standard industry pressure (approx 2200 psi).

Fender toolbox was moved from right to left fender. Rear worklight moved from behind the seat to the rear of the left fender.

Optional Cat. 2 three-point was available. Snap coupler hitch was standard. The snap coupler drawbar bail was upgraded to a much more heavy duty version. The casting for the transmission/diff housing and lift arm housing was changed to include the mounting bosses and holes for all the brackets needed for the 3 point/top link or heavier SC hitch. The SC bell housing mounted differently as well. The traction booster linkages were completely different to work with the new right fender mounted valves.

Snap coupler hitch lift arms were heavier. Two external hydraulic cylinders were used for the lift arms on both style hitches instead of a single internal cylinder. The PTO shield was changed to mount with 3 bolts around the rear PTO bearing carrier instead of 2 bolts on the rear of the lift arm casting.

I also believe the silver box around "Allis-Chalmers" was removed from the long hood decals. The tach face also changed from more white face to black face. I'm sure I'm missing other things but this is what I can go on from memory. Mike

1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers

Thanks, Mike. That explains alot. I found a nice series 4 gas narrow front, the price is right. I know mom's gonna tell me to thin the herd somewhere else and she is right, but a series 4 D17 vs. a WD, that's a no brainer. The WD will have to go, or the B, but I have a soft heart for my little B.

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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: differences between a D17 series 4 and others? Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 1:13pm
	What are the main differences between a series 4 D17 and the other series? Is it just the live hydraulic pump in the place of the belt pulley hole, but what else is there? Thanks.

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Gary IN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Points: 453	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary IN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 1:18pm
	Good 3pt and live hyd. Gary IN

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	ALONG THOSE LINES .. LOOKIN FOR A NICE D -17 THAT COULD BED WITH MY D-15 ON A NIGHTLY BASIS .. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SERIES 4 AND HAVE A 3 POINT ..
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Skyhighballoon(MO) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115	Post Options Post Reply Quote Skyhighballoon(MO) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 2:08pm
	Chuck - just comparing the Series III to Series IV changes - yes the independent hydraulics driving via a hollow quill shaft from the flywheel to the old belt pulley location. Hydraulic fluid capacity I think was increased by 2 quarts in the torque tube. Cessna type hydraulic controls were moved from the left steering column to the right fender side. Traction booster lever & depth control levers were right behind them. Controls included lift arms and one or two DUAL remote rams at standard industry pressure (approx 2200 psi). Fender toolbox was moved from right to left fender. Rear worklight moved from behind the seat to the rear of the left fender. Optional Cat. 2 three-point was available. Snap coupler hitch was standard. The snap coupler drawbar bail was upgraded to a much more heavy duty version. The casting for the transmission/diff housing and lift arm housing was changed to include the mounting bosses and holes for all the brackets needed for the 3 point/top link or heavier SC hitch. The SC bell housing mounted differently as well. The traction booster linkages were completely different to work with the new right fender mounted valves. Snap coupler hitch lift arms were heavier. Two external hydraulic cylinders were used for the lift arms on both style hitches instead of a single internal cylinder. The PTO shield was changed to mount with 3 bolts around the rear PTO bearing carrier instead of 2 bolts on the rear of the lift arm casting. I also believe the silver box around "Allis-Chalmers" was removed from the long hood decals. The tach face also changed from more white face to black face. I'm sure I'm missing other things but this is what I can go on from memory. Mike
	1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers

Gary IN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Points: 453	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary IN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 2:10pm
	Have a series 4 average sheet metal, (grill beat up worse then anything), 3pt runs good, 25% tires, WF, Nice user. power steering quit, have all parts to fix. 3500.00 Gary IN

ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 2:14pm
	Thanks, Mike. That explains alot. I found a nice series 4 gas narrow front, the price is right. I know mom's gonna tell me to thin the herd somewhere else and she is right, but a series 4 D17 vs. a WD, that's a no brainer. The WD will have to go, or the B, but I have a soft heart for my little B.