cant get 190xt to hook up

Hello everyone I am having trouble getting my 190xt to hook up to the track it weights 8500 lb. has a 20 inch draw bar and about 50% life road worn special service tires I am running 7 psi in them there 18.4 34 tires any good ideas out there? I ran a 100 lb. weight on the front last pull never got lite in the front to much weight in the front maybe looking for some help with it please, I cant even make it get in to the pump and injectors Ed built for it never even pulls down! Last hook was only a 4 mph pull small sled was afraid I would break it got beat up by the red and it was just a super mta I have to stop this lol!     

How fare in is ur draw bar. I can't run with mine in all the way. It's taken a lot of runs to get my 190 to hook up,moving weight,hitch and makeing a custom front end. Now it hooks every time.

Shawn knos ,, his 190 is awesome

I had to pull my drawbar back till I found the sweet spot.

Just a question whats you front to rear ratio my 190 is 70 % rear at 5500 lbs draw bar 20 up 20 out hooked good till it lost power director

JW...that looks like mild steel, don't it bend down while pulling?

I will get some pictures of my rear tires in the morning and up load them so everyone can see how the tires a worn look kind of like top cuts but the worst part is there special service tires or rice and cane tires at about 50 % tread or less I ran them last time at 7 psi this weekend I am going to go down to about 4 psi in them and see what happens.

Edited by jwbigbaddodge540hp - 05 Oct 2015 at 1:34am

I don't think I can bend it but I could be wrong on that I have seen stuff you wouldn't think you could break broke in dozen parts too or bent up.

It's almost impossible to tell if a drawbar is going to work by looking at it. A drawbar that doesn't work at all might work great if you can relocate 500 lbs. from the front to the extreme rear of the tractor.

On the (antique) WD-45 I occasionally pull, I can't come close to getting the front end light at our local county fair which has a stone dust track with very little bite. When we pull on a clay track about 40 miles away, without changing one thing, I can't keep the front end on the ground.

There are a few things you might be able to do to help your spinning out situation:

1. GET RID OF THE CLEVIS !!! If your association allows it, make a 3/4" to 7/8" steel plate with a 3" round hole that bolts to your drawbar. Your clevis drops as soon as you tighten the chain. You might lose as much as a couple inches of drawbar height with a clevis.

2. Lighten the front end of the tractor (which is usually not as easy as it sounds).

3. Put all the moveable weight behind the rear axle.

4. You might want to have someone video your pull and watch the rear tires. I always felt the secret was hard tires on a hard (clay) track and softer tires on softer (stone dust) tracks.

5. Try making your drawbar adjustable in and out and up and down. When you vary tire pressure, you need to compensate on hitch height. I use two overlapping steel bars with several 5/8" hole in each, so I can adjust in and out easily by removing a couple bolts and adjusting the overall length of the drawbar.

Edited by WF owner - 05 Oct 2015 at 6:53am

wf the two tracks you pull the wd at do you use the same sled ? every sled pulls different

I run a 190 in the 8000# class. I'm 2200lbs on the front axle and haven't even tried to strip more off. I run 600lbs behind the axle and 400lbs underneath. Hitch 20" from center axle and 20" high. I run 23.1x34 and it hooks excellent.

Thank you everyone for the help with it built a new hitch for it 20 inches back and 20 inches tall pulled it Saturday afternoon in the open 8500lb class and the open 9000lb class no speed limit, pulled in 7th gear first pull second 6th got under the turbo in 7th gear but stayed right on top in 6th gear both hooks ended in the first place standing, first hook pulled 280 foot second hook pulled a 297 foot pull this winters I am going to build a new front for it to get the weight balance right on it and some day a set of press steel 38 tires but I need some engine work before that rings rod bearing's and mains never have looked at it just did head and fuel and turbo on it is all, and affair to say maybe some pd work as well I think I slipped it Saturday in my first hook and it may of just been spinning off the line I don't really know, Ill try and get some videos up loaded to you tube and share them on here. thanks again everyone that help and offered advice to me with it, if you have face book there on my face book page James Walters