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55allis 
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 Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 10:33pm |
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How hot does a d19 diesel run at for temperature? Got the head off and looked in where the thermostat is a suppose to be And there wasn’t any in there, so trying to figure out how hot to go with.
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55allis
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Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 7:42am |
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How hard is it to get the timing cover off?
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55allis
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Posted: 21 Jul 2020 at 6:40pm |
Got the timing cover off by Loosening the frame rail and it came right off. Got the head on and the manifolds. Now just waiting on parts.  
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Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 8:00am |
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Ah, 'Parts Needed' the story of my life!
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DrAllis
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Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 8:26am |
Thermostat missing ?? probably because the engine runs hot under load due to a WD45 sized radiator...……...
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55allis
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Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 11:51am |
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Had it running before I tore it apart and driving up a road it would get to about 180 degrees on a 93 degree day.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 11:59am |
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So, how hot do you think it would get pulling a plow on that same day?? Driving down the road isn't much of a load.
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55allis
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Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 2:04pm |
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Not completely sure but 30 years ago is when my cousin use to use it and he said it never got to hot but that was 30 some years ago.
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55allis
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Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 7:01pm |
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Got the valves all adjusted
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Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 11:13pm |
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Can you find a fan with more blades so you can move more air thru...?
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55allis
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Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 8:09am |
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It has a five blade fan on it right now
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55allis
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 12:18pm |
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Got it all back together today and it ran nice and smooth.
Will send a picture of it , don’t have a updated picture yet.
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Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 5:23pm |
Here it is after two hours of running. The injection pump is leaking a little but not enough to worry about. 
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Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 9:02pm |
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Is it possible to add another hydraulic tank so it can have more oil on the factory hydraulics system?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 9:15pm |
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What are you attempting to do ?? I suppose a tank could be mounted outside the frame and the bottom of it plumbed to the torque tube drain plug. It would have to have a good breather on the top of it to let oil go in and out.
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Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 10:19pm |
 55allis wrote:
Is it possible to add another hydraulic tank so it can have more oil on the factory hydraulics system? |
It won't make the hydraulics work any better.
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55allis
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Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 8:44am |
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Isn’t it a high pressure lower volume? Thought if I could add more hydraulic oil to the system it could pick up things that take more oil.
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Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 8:51am |
55allis wrote:
Isn’t it a high pressure lower volume? Thought if I could add more hydraulic oil to the system it could pick up things that take more oil. |
yes that is true. but as even Dr Allis has stated before, the D19 Hyd system is pretty lackluster.
to add to the comment earlier about compression, yes the 19 was different than the 17 at least on the early engines. the early pistons had valve recess for intake valves and later they went to flat piston and changed head and camshaft. I am putting a 19 together right now with parts from Norm we got about 3 years ago. early head and cam. new pistons are flat but exact same height, so we had a valve relief machined in to match old pistons instead of changing head and cam. I discussed this with Don(MO) before he passed so hoping to be good to go. we also bought arp head studs and fire rings from Mack. the agco fire rings are a steel gasket material sandwich.
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Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 11:12am |
CAL(KS) wrote:
55allis wrote:
Isn’t it a high pressure lower volume? Thought if I could add more hydraulic oil to the system it could pick up things that take more oil. |
yes that is true. but as even Dr Allis has stated before, the D19 Hyd system is pretty lackluster.
to add to the comment earlier about compression, yes the 19 was different than the 17 at least on the early engines. the early pistons had valve recess for intake valves and later they went to flat piston and changed head and camshaft. I am putting a 19 together right now with parts from Norm we got about 3 years ago. early head and cam. new pistons are flat but exact same height, so we had a valve relief machined in to match old pistons instead of changing head and cam. I discussed this with Don(MO) before he passed so hoping to be good to go. we also bought arp head studs and fire rings from Mack. the agco fire rings are a steel gasket material sandwich. |
It is a wd45 hydraulic system. I got a d17 head gasket and it worked perfectly, it runs just so nicely. 
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 11:28am |
ah yes, all then engine talk i forgot it was in a 45 
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DrAllis
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Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 2:55pm |
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If you hang a tank on the outside of the right frame rail and have the bottom of it level with the bottom of the torque tube sump and run a hose as large as possible between bottom drain plugs of both and have a good breather on the tank, it would work.
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Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 5:54pm |
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D-19 diesel pistons have valve reliefs milled in their tops,
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55allis
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Posted: 17 Aug 2020 at 10:59pm |
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It now has a slight miss to it. Don’t think it’s air in the lines cause I cracked injector lines open and closed them (it would be like a gasers distributor cap being not quite lined up)
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Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 7:50am |
On your cooling system, if you added a Thermostat in the system, you can slow the coolant down so the Radiator has a chance to do its job and cool much better. With the Thermostat out, hot coolant from the engine comes out quickly, rolls through the Radiator quickly not giving the Radiator a chance to cool things down before it re-enters the engine. The radiator is a heat exchanger. Hot coming out and hot going back in doesn't make cool. The higher the Thermostat, the slower you move the coolant which gives the Radiator more time to cool things down a bit. Especially when its working in the field.... Steve@B&B
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55allis
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 10:51pm |
Ok thanks Steve!!! Now the traction booster leaks and I got all the o-rings for it but not sure how to get it off to put them in. Now this probably sounds like dumb question but I haven’t worked to much on these older Allis. The picture isn’t of mine but it is the same setup. 
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Posted: 22 Aug 2020 at 10:41pm |
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Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 8:54am |
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Nice score!I see it has the optional shredder blades on it.Do you have a not so close up pic of it?
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 9:44pm |
Here’s a full picture of it.  
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55allis
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 9:47pm |
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Have to put new seals in it but it shouldn’t be that bad to do.
The barb wire tore the seal up so another good project to get done.
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 6:43am |
55, Looks heavy duty. At my age I would be adding a jack to that unit. Loos solid and not all rusted out. Regards, Chris |
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