Allis Chalmers WD45 Diesel project
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Topic: Allis Chalmers WD45 Diesel project
Posted By: 55allis
Subject: Allis Chalmers WD45 Diesel project
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2020 at 10:16am
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Hi to all, just got me a nice WD45 with a D19 diesel repower engine in it. It has been setting for about 20 years in a machinery shed. Put new diesel in it and it started right up. Got it to a shop so I can work on it and so far I took it in to get rid of the fluid in the rear tires and change the oil. Would post a picture but it won’t load. |
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2020 at 12:35pm
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Good luck with the tractor and welcome to the forum. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2020 at 5:57pm
Got to looking at it and the radiator and the diesel pump are leaking.  |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2020 at 9:02pm
Welcome to the world of buying old tractors. Not trying to bring you down but you WILL find more things wrong with it the more you look. Deal with them when you stumble across them. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
55allis wrote:Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2020 at 9:12pm
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Yes I know that from experience!! Does anyone know how hard it is to take apart and put together those pumps are? |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2020 at 9:45pm
These pumps are NOT for an amateur! Send it to a shop that knows these pumps. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2020 at 1:01pm
My cousin might be able to help on the pump so I might be in good luck. I got the tractor from him. 
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2020 at 3:04pm
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55allis, Welcome! Glad the tractor is running. As mentioned they tend to mark there territory. Every thing about a diesel is a little more complicated than a gas job. But you have a rare tractor. Under 7000 made I believe. You might need to reduce the picture size to around 800 x 600 pixels for it to load better. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2020 at 10:57pm
Ok thanks 
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2020 at 10:37am
| Good looking tractor |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2020 at 6:37pm
How thick is a late d17 diesel head gasket? 
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2020 at 9:09pm
| .065. MACK |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2020 at 10:06pm
Ok thanks Mack.  it has d17 pistons and the valves hit the pistons so I think a thicker head gasket will fix that problem. Thanks!! |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 8:15am
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Have you physically checked to see by rotating engine and then checking the valve for movement at tdc of engine with the valve open? ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 11:30am
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When my cousin overhauled it 30 some years ago he put d17 pistons in it and so he drove it 10 miles right after he overhauled it and it bent a few pushrods, so he was in a hurry to use it and retarded the camshaft and fixed all the pushrods it bent Now if that explains what happened |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 8:53pm
| Don't think there is a thicker head gasket + that would increase the chances of blowing head gasket. MACK |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 8:55pm
| Machine some from top of pistons. MACK |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 9:23pm
| I think it will be fine with a d17 head gasket besides they are a bit thicker. |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2020 at 6:49am
| All 230-262 diesel head gaskets are the same thickness. MACK |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2020 at 7:06am
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There must be a difference in cams for the D17 pistons to hit in a D19 diesel. The later D19 compression ratio is 15:1 and the D17 is 15.7:1. Machining pistons would fix it. Of course I have little experience in those engines........ Looking at the parts page it looks like the cam changed and when using the new cam you had to change to newer pistons. I'm just babbling for my own edjamacation.  ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2020 at 8:46am
| Do the diesels have flat surface where valve sets requiring specific stand out? Someone put seats in my 8070 before I got it and didn't set them down...had valve marks in carbon on 4 pistons. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2020 at 11:43am
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I believe they are flat ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2020 at 6:17pm
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55 allis, I can see you have some experience in these engines and that's good. I do not. A good friend and good mechanic on these 45D engines gave me advice on them. If you want to chat P.M. me. Thanks for posting the picture of your tractor! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2020 at 8:27pm
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The AGCO head gaskets had a sheet of paper inside them on the piston machining needed. AGCO has killed the head gasket but Tony at Tony's tractor has one left of the AGCO gaskets left' Albert |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2020 at 9:21pm
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Ok but already got one coming Thanks |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 7:42am
| Got the one rim and tire put together and painted [IMG]http:// |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 7:44am
 Here is the picture, it didn’t work the first time |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 8:24am
 Here is a better picture |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 2:26pm
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55, that looks great! |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 9:05pm
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Nice big 16.9's on the 45D! I like it. Wheel looks good! Thanks for posting. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 10:33pm
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How hot does a d19 diesel run at for temperature? Got the head off and looked in where the thermostat is a suppose to be And there wasn’t any in there, so trying to figure out how hot to go with. Thanks!!! |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 7:42am
| How hard is it to get the timing cover off? |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2020 at 6:40pm
Got the timing cover off by Loosening the frame rail and it came right off. Got the head on and the manifolds. Now just waiting on parts. 
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 8:00am
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Ah, 'Parts Needed' the story of my life! |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 8:26am
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Thermostat missing ?? probably because the engine runs hot under load due to a WD45 sized radiator...……... |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 11:51am
| Had it running before I tore it apart and driving up a road it would get to about 180 degrees on a 93 degree day. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 11:59am
| So, how hot do you think it would get pulling a plow on that same day?? Driving down the road isn't much of a load. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 2:04pm
| Not completely sure but 30 years ago is when my cousin use to use it and he said it never got to hot but that was 30 some years ago. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 7:01pm
| Got the valves all adjusted |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 11:13pm
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Can you find a fan with more blades so you can move more air thru...? ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 8:09am
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It has a five blade fan on it right now |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 12:18pm
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Got it all back together today and it ran nice and smooth. Will send a picture of it , don’t have a updated picture yet. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 5:23pm
Here it is after two hours of running. The injection pump is leaking a little but not enough to worry about. 
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 9:02pm
| Is it possible to add another hydraulic tank so it can have more oil on the factory hydraulics system? |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 9:15pm
| What are you attempting to do ?? I suppose a tank could be mounted outside the frame and the bottom of it plumbed to the torque tube drain plug. It would have to have a good breather on the top of it to let oil go in and out. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 10:19pm
It won't make the hydraulics work any better. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 8:44am
| Isn’t it a high pressure lower volume? Thought if I could add more hydraulic oil to the system it could pick up things that take more oil. |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 8:51am
to add to the comment earlier about compression, yes the 19 was different than the 17 at least on the early engines. the early pistons had valve recess for intake valves and later they went to flat piston and changed head and camshaft. I am putting a 19 together right now with parts from Norm we got about 3 years ago. early head and cam. new pistons are flat but exact same height, so we had a valve relief machined in to match old pistons instead of changing head and cam. I discussed this with Don(MO) before he passed so hoping to be good to go. we also bought arp head studs and fire rings from Mack. the agco fire rings are a steel gasket material sandwich. ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 11:12am
It is a wd45 hydraulic system. I got a d17 head gasket and it worked perfectly, it runs just so nicely. 
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 11:28am
ah yes, all then engine talk i forgot it was in a 45  ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 2:55pm
| If you hang a tank on the outside of the right frame rail and have the bottom of it level with the bottom of the torque tube sump and run a hose as large as possible between bottom drain plugs of both and have a good breather on the tank, it would work. |
Posted By: Joe DeLisle
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 5:54pm
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D-19 diesel pistons have valve reliefs milled in their tops, |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2020 at 10:59pm
| It now has a slight miss to it. Don’t think it’s air in the lines cause I cracked injector lines open and closed them (it would be like a gasers distributor cap being not quite lined up) |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 7:50am
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On your cooling system, if you added a Thermostat in the system, you can slow the coolant down so the Radiator has a chance to do its job and cool much better. With the Thermostat out, hot coolant from the engine comes out quickly, rolls through the Radiator quickly not giving the Radiator a chance to cool things down before it re-enters the engine. The radiator is a heat exchanger. Hot coming out and hot going back in doesn't make cool. The higher the Thermostat, the slower you move the coolant which gives the Radiator more time to cool things down a bit. Especially when its working in the field.... Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 10:51pm
Ok thanks Steve!!! Now the traction booster leaks and I got all the o-rings for it but not sure how to get it off to put them in. Now this probably sounds like dumb question but I haven’t worked to much on these older Allis. The picture isn’t of mine but it is the same setup. 
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2020 at 10:41pm
Got a mower for it, an Allis Chalmers 160 rotary mower although it blew a tire on the way home and has barbwire wrapped around the blade.    
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Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 8:54am
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Nice score!I see it has the optional shredder blades on it.Do you have a not so close up pic of it? ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 9:44pm
Here’s a full picture of it.  
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 9:47pm
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Have to put new seals in it but it shouldn’t be that bad to do. The barb wire tore the seal up so another good project to get done. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 6:43am
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55, Looks heavy duty. At my age I would be adding a jack to that unit. Loos solid and not all rusted out. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 7:49am
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I rebuilt the gearbox, (seals, bearings) on my Dixie cutter, it was NOT fun. Bearings came off the shaft with a cutting torch. Had to put the shaft in the freezer and heat the bearings in the oven to get it back together. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 8:41am
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Sounds like a good idea Sugarmaker The gearbox is nice and snug so don’t think it needs bearings just seals (it leaked all the oil out). |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 12:02pm
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I have the snap coupler version of that mower. You can get the seals from Agco still, that's where mine came from. The bolt on the blade adapter is a left hand thread BTW... ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 6:35pm
| Got to looking at the gearbox , it is different than the one on AGCO’s website. Also learned that Allis has two different places make them. https://na.apb.agcocorp.com/p/agcoallis/9001526b/l/31?tocGuid=20536ac1-47fa-3055-d958-3c34fd356ef5" rel="nofollow - https://na.apb.agcocorp.com/p/agcoallis/9001526b/l/31?tocGuid=20536ac1-47fa-3055-d958-3c34fd356ef5 |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 8:57pm
Yes you're right, as near as I can tell the 160's were made by Danuser machine works,like yours is, and the Allis Laporte plant.Laporte built units have the two ribs that run front to back on the deck.The Danuser built units had the two angle iron pieces that ran side to side like yours.   ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 11:07pm
| Do they have a special parts catalog book for the danuser? |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 12:11am
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It doesn't look like it.Here is a link to an ebay search for the manual for your mower.Looks like one can be had for $12.00 bucks.It has the parts list in it.Maybe get the manual and then cross the seal numbers to get what you need.Hope this helps. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=allis+chalmers+160+rotary+mower&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=160+rotary+mower" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=allis+chalmers+160+rotary+mower&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=160+rotary+mower
------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 2:41pm
| My cousin has a manual for it, he has been giving me part numbers |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2020 at 10:30pm
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I got the gearbox back together and put on. The bottom side bearing was cracked so I figured out AGCO can’t get no info on them so I took the gearbox apart and took it in to my local black smith and he found a replacement bearing that fit nicely then had to replace a tire and jacked it up and the wheel bearing was rusty so than had to get those wheel bearings, so far I’m waiting on a sleeve for the wheel bearing seal. Thought I would post a update to show the slow process on it. It should be like a new one now!!! 
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2020 at 6:40am
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55, You have been busy! The brush hog will be a nice addition and a real work horse. Thanks for the update. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2020 at 10:03pm
Got it back together today and mowed a little bit with it and loved it!!! 
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2020 at 7:53am
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55, hummm? picture may not be the one you wanted to post? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2020 at 8:22am
| Oh yes it is. That’s a quick job of mowing sorry for the poor quality, it was at evening |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2020 at 6:58pm
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Had to put new knuckles on the mower. Got them from a local John Deere dealer so now it has Deere parts on it.
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 10:26am
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Ok now I’m back. I mowed a 15 acre patch of CRP ground with that little 5foot mower and my wd45 and well it started blowing antifreeze out of the overflow hose so I quit for lunch and came back after it cooled down, so I started it with the radiator cap off and everything seemed fine but as so as it hit 150 degrees it blew antifreeze all over again. So after thinking the thermostat could be sticking I taped on it and it quite doing it. So going to torque the head down again after I bring it back and see if that helps. If anyone has any other ideas of what could be going on please post. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 12:34pm
| If it's over full it will puke out the excess when warmed up. As long as you can still see it above the tubes you got enough. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 12:56pm
| It was under the hoses in the radiator. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 6:21pm
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Ok I checked the head bolt but they was all good, it now just over heats but the radiator is cold. I am thinking the water pump is air locked. So I left the radiator cap real loose for this night. Tomorrow I will see if it made any difference. Also painted the pipe on it.  
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 5:49pm
| Now I think it might have a bad head gasket. It is foamy in the radiator. Does anyone know where to get a Copper head gasket? |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 9:15pm
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Got the head off of it and the head gasket looks fine but the head has a bunch of cracks around the intake valve. If you look closely at the picture you can see the cracks.   |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 9:16pm
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2020 at 8:16am
| Why do you want a copper head gasket? If the sleeves are low, a copper gasket won't help. MACK |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2021 at 8:28am
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Ok now with a update. Found a guy who makes copper head gaskets so I’m having him make me one. Now the problem is finding head bolts that are not too expensive, I call my Agco dealer and they said it was $1600 for a kit so a little too much $$$$ for me. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2021 at 9:31pm
| Someone here has a list ( I think) of ARP bolts you need. Much less than AGCO. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2021 at 10:51pm
It would be very much applause if any one would know and post about it.
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Posted By: DCAC
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 2:54am
| I got studs for my series 4 diesel from Pfouts Family Farm, good people to work with and good service as well!! |
Posted By: WD45Diesel57
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 7:26am
in my experience with these hydraulic systems on any of my WD's when you over fill them they air lock and quit working so adding another tanks will definitely cause this to happen and dads had it happen on his 45 as well ------------- 1-B's, 2-C, 2-CA's,2-WF, 1-WC,1-G, 3-WD's, 2-WD45, 1-RC, 1-D17 Diesel, 1-D14, 2-D15,1-D17 row crop,1-D19 gas and All Crop 40,60,66,72,90 and 100 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2021 at 2:13pm
| I ordered all studs, nuts ,and washers for the head for $250 so not as bad as agco. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2021 at 2:14pm
| And that was from ARP. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2021 at 6:16pm
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Here is the place I found the list. https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/d19-d-headbolts_topic24264.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/d19-d-headbolts_topic24264.html |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2021 at 9:10am
| Should I put thread locker on the block side on the studs? |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2021 at 10:54pm
| Studs are usually lightly torqued but no locker. 25ft/lb would seem good on them. Chase threads first. I don't need to say blow the holes out do I? |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2021 at 10:58pm
That doesn’t seem like a lot of ft/lbs for the head. I thought that the diesel 45’s are 100 ft/lbs. |
Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 6:55am
| I believe he is referring to the studs themselves. Then add the head and torque nuts to spec |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 8:41am
Read your words and then my reply.... |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 11:21am
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Ok, now I got it, first, put studs in, Second, put studs to 25ft/lb, third, put the head on, fourth, torque head nuts to 100ft/lb. Is that right? Sorry!! |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2021 at 10:47pm
| You are catching on.... |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 1:27pm
I finally got my copper head gasket today and it is Beautiful!
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 8:06pm
| Hope you have some type of fire rings to go with that copper gasket. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 8:11pm
| No, I had it made so it won’t need the fire rings. |