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    Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 7:03pm

What are your oppions, comments, things to look for, good price, and maby some photos?

In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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I had a real nice '55 couple of years ago.Good on power, better than the 'off colour 2n ' I had.I like the 4 speed.Hand clutch,some work some don't, mine did fine.Probably a '2 bottom plow' tractor powerwise.Bit of a challenge to climb on and off,course that might be my old tired bones ! I paid $1500 for mine,all original, was 6 volt,had PTO pulley. Needed serious cleaning(only) of the hydraulic pump,ran fine afterwards.More power than a B and a 4 gear making it more useful for all around work.
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CA's in my opinion are one of the handiest tractors to have, they run well and have about 26hp, and they can be used for almost anything, there small but have alot of power for there size. I wouldnt pay more than $1,500 for one. heres a picture of mine
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I have one that has been converted to snap coupler. I would say around here $1500 would buy one that is in dire need of some TLC. $2000-$2500 would get one in good condition. I agree with Jay. The N series Fords WISHED they were as good a tractor as the CA...
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Dennis that is an enpressive CA!
In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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 Always wanted a CA since my Uncle had one when I was a teenager. A few years ago the guy across the road got one & told me to take it to rake hay, just so it got used. Well Jay you are right on about getting on & off as we get older, I thanked him and went back to the WD for raking since. Advise climbing on & off before buying. That said I wonder if my front steps on the 45 would work on a CA, Uncle wants to sell his wide front?...Harvey 
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My buddy brought a wide front CA home from Montana with an Allis Belly Sickle and the wide front thats on my WD45....that little CA is super handy and a powerhouse.....just think, a Farmall Cub is 9.5 HP, a CA is 26 and they are very close in size.....
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I think a sf CA is worth a little more since there were only around 400 made...who knows how many survived....this one is my tractor drive tractor...goes down the road nice and straight!
 
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My son has two Ca that he is going to post for sale this weekend as a pair  one with a loader , both tricycle fronts in Michigan . keep a look out for them .
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I never had a problem getting on my CA but I haven't been on her in about 3 years now. I have been on the B lately and it's way harder than the CA. Harvey, several guys on here have steps on their CA's. If you don't plan to cultivate with it, steps would be real handy for us old pharts.  Charlie
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The CA is the winter project in the shop now. I wish the green grass was outside now instead of the snow.  Have a good one  BILL P

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Hey Dennis what was your tep gauge reading when you were pulling them 3-14's?
In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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The CA is the "Little Allis with the big Allis features"; 4 spd tranny, "live" hyd and PTO (with the hand clutch), PAW rear wheels, "traction booster", and same hydraulics as the WD/WD45. They are a honest  2 bottom plow machine; and properly setup for plowing (weights on rear tires, engine weights, and plow/tires adjusted), can pull a 2X14 plow in third gear. They use approx 1 gallon of fuel/hour when working pretty hard, less for raking and lawn mowing.
 
A foot step can be added to the left brace fairly easily (there is an ad on this forum for a nice one). With the platform over the axles, they can be accessed rather easily with the step.
Parts are fairly easy to obtain, so rehabbing a tired one is not too much of a hassle. However, one should plan on spending $1,000-$2,000 for a decent rehab job; more if you need to get into the engine.
In my opinion, it is much more verstile than the Ford and Farmall and are less expensive 
than the Fords. Currently have a CA in the shop being rehabbed to replace the one I have been using for lawnmowing.
Two of the several CA's I have rehabbed and are now with new owners.
 
A link to a PDF file containing useful info on the B/C/CA tractors below:
 
 
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Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2.
With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC
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For those who are interested; link to the post on steps available for the CA:
 
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Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2.
With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC
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 Temp has always been in the normal range no matter what it was doing. My "CA" only has a 1/16 over bore kit in it. The engine runs at stock RPMs. The only thing I have added is weight. You need weight for traction, so I have 1 set of inner & outer front & rear weights. If I ever wanted to replace the "CA" I would look for a "D-14", but I have no need to.
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In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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You know how I feel about my CA. It is a little awkward getting on and off but I just get on and off the back. Never tried the front before. 
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My CA is real easy to get on and off. I step on the mower deck . Step up to the Loader Frame and step up to the platform. I haven't needed the loader in a while but left the frame on it a nice step. I haven't taken the Woods Mower off in a couple years. Its a very handy tractor.
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I just obtained a CA. I cannot seem to figure out what year it is. I know the serial number, it is CA 635. I know it has to be between 50 - 53 because it has the pin style receiver.
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YearStarting Serial Number
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195210395
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195532907
195637203
195738618
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Thank you for the fast reply. I've seen the serial number chart you have posted. Because I have never restored tractors I am truly uncertain of the serial number. So, is my tractor a 1951 based on the starting numbers for 1951 and 1952?
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I would call it a 1951.

I have SN 39086 on my CA with Snap Coupler drawbar

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Does anyone know if I can swap to a snap couple setup using the parts from a later model Can?
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Love my CA
Narrow front now but have everything to change over to a wide w/ trip loader bucket soon and from pulling a 6' BH to drilling fence posts(10") auger, really can find anything it complains about doing( lots of power to size ratio and like all has said very handy tractor- especially when ya buy em cheap,($400) mine needed new rear rims and front rims but motor is strong through all the paces I've put it through so far...
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I've got two CA's, a wide front I bought when I was 17 (53 years ago!) and a narrow one that is kind of free until the owner comes back from Europe someday.  I used the CA for haying, cutting, raking and baling with a MF #10 baler.  We don't pull wagons out here, use bale wagons to pick up and stack the hay.  I'll be taking the narrow front to our Yesteryear Farm show next weekend, Aug 23, 24 & 25th, Just south of Longmont Colorado on US 287 at the Doughty Museum.
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Originally posted by super71bee super71bee wrote:

Does anyone know if I can swap to a snap couple setup using the parts from a later model Can?

 Yes you can. The lift arms are different and would have to be either changed, or cut off to fit the proper lift latches.
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