ALLIS CHALMERS CA?
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Topic: ALLIS CHALMERS CA?
Posted By: R.W
Subject: ALLIS CHALMERS CA?
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 7:03pm
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What are your oppions, comments, things to look for, good price, and maby some photos? ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 7:13pm
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I had a real nice '55 couple of years ago.Good on power, better than the 'off colour 2n ' I had.I like the 4 speed.Hand clutch,some work some don't, mine did fine.Probably a '2 bottom plow' tractor powerwise.Bit of a challenge to climb on and off,course that might be my old tired bones ! I paid $1500 for mine,all original, was 6 volt,had PTO pulley. Needed serious cleaning(only) of the hydraulic pump,ran fine afterwards.More power than a B and a 4 gear making it more useful for all around work. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: allis restorer
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 7:14pm
CA's in my opinion are one of the handiest tractors to have, they run well and have about 26hp, and they can be used for almost anything, there small but have alot of power for there size. I wouldnt pay more than $1,500 for one. heres a picture of mine
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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 7:59pm
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http://allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19858&KW=&PID=147793&title=ca-pulling-314-plow#147793 -
http://allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19858&KW=&PID=147793&title=ca-pulling-314-plow#147793 ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 8:06pm
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http://allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19786&OB=ASC - http://allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19786&OB=ASC ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 8:07pm
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I have one that has been converted to snap coupler. I would say around here $1500 would buy one that is in dire need of some TLC. $2000-$2500 would get one in good condition. I agree with Jay. The N series Fords WISHED they were as good a tractor as the CA... ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 8:13pm
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Dennis that is an enpressive CA! ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 8:29pm
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Posted By: Harvey/pa
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 9:27pm
| Always wanted a CA since my Uncle had one when I was a teenager. A few years ago the guy across the road got one & told me to take it to rake hay, just so it got used. Well Jay you are right on about getting on & off as we get older, I thanked him and went back to the WD for raking since. Advise climbing on & off before buying. That said I wonder if my front steps on the 45 would work on a CA, Uncle wants to sell his wide front?...Harvey |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 9:28pm
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My buddy brought a wide front CA home from Montana with an Allis Belly Sickle and the wide front thats on my WD45....that little CA is super handy and a powerhouse.....just think, a Farmall Cub is 9.5 HP, a CA is 26 and they are very close in size.....
------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 9:32pm
I think a sf CA is worth a little more since there were only around 400 made...who knows how many survived....this one is my tractor drive tractor...goes down the road nice and straight!
 ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Pipe
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 9:38pm
| My son has two Ca that he is going to post for sale this weekend as a pair one with a loader , both tricycle fronts in Michigan . keep a look out for them . |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 9:39pm
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I never had a problem getting on my CA but I haven't been on her in about 3 years now. I have been on the B lately and it's way harder than the CA. Harvey, several guys on here have steps on their CA's. If you don't plan to cultivate with it, steps would be real handy for us old pharts. Charlie
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: BILLP-SE-MI
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 9:47pm
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The CA is the winter project in the shop now. I wish the green grass was outside now instead of the snow. Have a good one BILL P  |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 10:23am
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Hey Dennis what was your tep gauge reading when you were pulling them 3-14's? ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 10:57am
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The CA is the "Little Allis with the big Allis features"; 4 spd tranny, "live" hyd and PTO (with the hand clutch), PAW rear wheels, "traction booster", and same hydraulics as the WD/WD45. They are a honest 2 bottom plow machine; and properly setup for plowing (weights on rear tires, engine weights, and plow/tires adjusted), can pull a 2X14 plow in third gear. They use approx 1 gallon of fuel/hour when working pretty hard, less for raking and lawn mowing.
A foot step can be added to the left brace fairly easily (there is an ad on this forum for a nice one). With the platform over the axles, they can be accessed rather easily with the step.
Parts are fairly easy to obtain, so rehabbing a tired one is not too much of a hassle. However, one should plan on spending $1,000-$2,000 for a decent rehab job; more if you need to get into the engine.
In my opinion, it is much more verstile than the Ford and Farmall and are less expensive
than the Fords. Currently have a CA in the shop being rehabbed to replace the one I have been using for lawnmowing.
Two of the several CA's I have rehabbed and are now with new owners.
 A link to a PDF file containing useful info on the B/C/CA tractors below:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~garosier/Little%20ACs.pdf - http://www.frontiernet.net/~garosier/Little%20ACs.pdf
------------- What this country needs is more unemployed politicians-and lawyers. Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2. With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC |
Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 11:08am
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For those who are interested; link to the post on steps available for the CA:
http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24743&KW=step&title=steps-for-b-c-ca-maybe-d-series - http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24743&KW=step&title=steps-for-b-c-ca-maybe-d-series
------------- What this country needs is more unemployed politicians-and lawyers. Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2. With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 11:10am
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Temp has always been in the normal range no matter what it was doing. My "CA" only has a 1/16 over bore kit in it. The engine runs at stock RPMs. The only thing I have added is weight. You need weight for traction, so I have 1 set of inner & outer front & rear weights. If I ever wanted to replace the "CA" I would look for a "D-14", but I have no need to. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 12:58pm
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Mark I sent you a pm.... ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 4:40pm
| You know how I feel about my CA. It is a little awkward getting on and off but I just get on and off the back. Never tried the front before. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 6:13pm
| My CA is real easy to get on and off. I step on the mower deck . Step up to the Loader Frame and step up to the platform. I haven't needed the loader in a while but left the frame on it a nice step. I haven't taken the Woods Mower off in a couple years. Its a very handy tractor. |
Posted By: super71bee
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 7:25pm
| I just obtained a CA. I cannot seem to figure out what year it is. I know the serial number, it is CA 635. I know it has to be between 50 - 53 because it has the pin style receiver. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 7:37pm
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: super71bee
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 7:42pm
| Thank you for the fast reply. I've seen the serial number chart you have posted. Because I have never restored tractors I am truly uncertain of the serial number. So, is my tractor a 1951 based on the starting numbers for 1951 and 1952? |
Posted By: DSpears N IL
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 8:17pm
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I would call it a 1951. I have SN 39086 on my CA with Snap Coupler drawbar  |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 9:29pm
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Shop manual may help things: http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf Gerald J. |
Posted By: super71bee
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 3:55pm
| Does anyone know if I can swap to a snap couple setup using the parts from a later model Can? |
Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 10:52pm
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Love my CA Narrow front now but have everything to change over to a wide w/ trip loader bucket soon and from pulling a 6' BH to drilling fence posts(10") auger, really can find anything it complains about doing( lots of power to size ratio and like all has said very handy tractor- especially when ya buy em cheap,($400) mine needed new rear rims and front rims but motor is strong through all the paces I've put it through so far...  
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 11:32pm
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I've got two CA's, a wide front I bought when I was 17 (53 years ago!) and a narrow one that is kind of free until the owner comes back from Europe someday. I used the CA for haying, cutting, raking and baling with a MF #10 baler. We don't pull wagons out here, use bale wagons to pick up and stack the hay. I'll be taking the narrow front to our Yesteryear Farm show next weekend, Aug 23, 24 & 25th, Just south of Longmont Colorado on US 287 at the Doughty Museum. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 8:12am
Yes you can. The lift arms are different and would have to be either changed, or cut off to fit the proper lift latches. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
super71bee wrote:Posted By: Plummerdaddy
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 11:44am
| Hello new to this so not trying to butt in the conversation. I have an Allis Chalmers d15 model 3413 gas 4 cylinder. I recently replaced points rotor etc now I have a timing issue. Does anyone know the proper firing order and how I should set the timing? |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 5:32pm
Best to start a new topic. Look for the "New Topic " button, right below Farm Equipment in this forum. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 4:48pm
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GOOD GRIEF!!! Do you realize this post initiated over 9 years ago. Did you find a CA and Buy it. Would love to know. By the way the CA was one of the finest tractors I sold. Loved to plow with them. Almost as good as the G. Good Luck! Bill Long
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