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I avoid all that 'bargain' universal tractor fluid.
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"Vintage" oil is a marketing ploy, and not always less expensive, at least to the buyer, as you noted.  Do a bit of research and I believe you will find the "modern" oils/fluids are backwards compatible to the "older/vintage" ones.  Why would a manufacturer want to add more products to stock and deal with, other than in the cases where the product was going into new hardware that is not similar to existing.  John Deere doesn't sell 303 Special Purpose Oil, J14A Hy Gard, J20A Hy Gard, the current J20C covers all of them.  Same applies to the AGCO fluids I believe.  Look at the manufacturer specs an oil/fluid covers and go with the newest.  And if you cannot find the specs for a product on the container, or a Product Data Sheet for it, I suggest avoiding use of said product.
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I bought 10 five gallon buckets of TSC Premium universal oil for $10.32 per gallon, including tax.  It was on sale for $15 off per bucket plus $5 off for 10 or more buckets.  I know I'll use it, unless I croak, and then someone will get a good deal on a bunch of oil!  I've been using the T6 in my Cat powered Freightliner, seems to start easier and still has decent oil pressure after it's hot.  I just use regular 15w40 in the other equipment as they aren't started when the temps are cold. 
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Originally posted by Jim.ME Jim.ME wrote:

"Vintage" oil is a marketing ploy, and not always less expensive, at least to the buyer, as you noted.  Do a bit of research and I believe you will find the "modern" oils/fluids are backwards compatible to the "older/vintage" ones.  Why would a manufacturer want to add more products to stock and deal with, other than in the cases where the product was going into new hardware that is not similar to existing.  John Deere doesn't sell 303 Special Purpose Oil, J14A Hy Gard, J20A Hy Gard, the current J20C covers all of them.  Same applies to the AGCO fluids I believe.  Look at the manufacturer specs an oil/fluid covers and go with the newest.  And if you cannot find the specs for a product on the container, or a Product Data Sheet for it, I suggest avoiding use of said product.
Backwards compatible, yes, exactly my point earlier as well!  Agreed!!
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