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tractorman 
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Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 9:44pm |
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recently some one ran a topic about rebuilding an ac wagon or running gear now i can't find it. can some one repost or relist it. Thanks Johns
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Bill (E.C.MO)
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Posted: 02 Feb 2010 at 11:34pm |
Tractorman,
I rebuilt and redecked this model 601 gear last summer...not sure how to find the thread from then.
edit: I searched for the thread and couldn't find it. I think it was posted near the end of the old forum.
Edited by Bill (E.C.MO) - 02 Feb 2010 at 11:45pm
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Chad(WI)
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Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 6:26am |
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Still think you did a great job, Bill. You should be proud!!
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Bill (E.C.MO)
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Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 9:27am |
Thanks, Chad! It was a fun project. Have you had a chance to do any more on your gear? If I remember right yours is in pretty good original condition.
I found the link off the old forum for Tractorman:
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tractorman
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Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 4:43pm |
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a friend asked me to help him find it, i think he will be happy, I am thank you. A very neat project. i will spend some moe time looking at the be as well as the wagon. Thanks agin JS
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EPALLIS
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Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 10:21pm |
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I plan to redo my wagon this year (a 701). How did you do the stencil of the number?? That was an incredible job!
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Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 10:36pm |
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Very Nice!!!!!!!
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Bill (E.C.MO)
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Posted: 03 Feb 2010 at 11:29pm |
Thanks for the nice comments, guys.
EPALLIS,
Luckily, there was some remnant of the old model number stencil. I traced the outline on a piece of vellum, then cleaned it up on the drafting table:
I took this drawing/tracing to the local sign shop. They have a vinyl-die cut lettering machine. They scanned the drawing and made a perfect stencil out of adhesive-backed vinyl. This way I had no bleed-through creeping underneath the stencil at all when I spray-painted over it, and the original factory model number is reproduced as closely as I could reasonably get it.
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Chad(WI)
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 6:13am |
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Chad(WI)
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 6:18am |
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I guess my spelling is off this morning! By the way, how do you put spaces between the pictures?
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Bill (E.C.MO)
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 1:54pm |
Hey Chad,
Your wagon looks nice and straight, everything is there including the decal remnants and the metal nameplate. It took me over a year to find mine, you'll have a hoot when you get around to yours.
I think if you hit "enter" a time or two between cut-and-pasted photo links, that should cause them to separate in the post, but keep in mind I also consider dining at the Waffle House to be "healthy eating".
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 2:47pm |
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I have 2 Allis running gears and am repainting the one under the kicker wagon. I should redo the one under the bin wagon also but theres this thing about time. I have an Electric gear under another bin wagon that is orange, a neighboe has 2 nice Electric wagons that are red ( orginal ) Does anyone know if they came in different colors or was it just painted to match the J&M bin at some time? Thanks...Harvey
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 3:00pm |
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We had two electric gears under gravity bins - one orange, one red. I think they changed their primary color at some time over the years.
-John
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AllisFreak MN
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Posted: 04 Feb 2010 at 6:16pm |
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I have a 701 gear that must be a few years newer because it has the newer A-C decal on the back and the triangular logo on the side next to where it says 701. I know it has never been repainted as I am the second owner. The guy I bought it from has 5 more A-C running gears, he purcased them all brand new. He will not part with any more yet. He also has an A-C silage blower still hooked to his silo pipe that hasn't been used for 15 years, I imagine it's rusted out by now.
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Bill (E.C.MO)
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Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 8:08am |
AllisFreak MN,
If you look closely at the illustration in Norm Swinford's A-C Farm Equipment book, an A-C triangle logo is visible next to the model number just as you decribe on your wagon. In a listing of the models offered, the entry for the 701 gear reads: "Model 701 - 7 ton for power feed boxes".
I thought about adding that decal there, it would look cool. I refrained because I didn't think it would be original. No doubt you're correct about the later model wagons having this decal.
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Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 9:22am |
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Bill: I checked the book and yes, you are correct. I would like to make mine look as nice as yours someday, just have to make time to do it I guess. You did an awesome job on your 601.
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Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 3:07pm |
AF...I have a baby brother to yor 701. It still has the original bias ply BF Goodrich tires on it. Kinda crowded, so I had to put my 601 on it for the winter!
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Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 4:04pm |
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Chad WI: Nice! The paint and decals look pretty darn good on that 505. Those are the exact A-C decals that are on my 701. I wonder if you can still get those?
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Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 4:30pm |
Well here's is mine bought in august 09' Danny 
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Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 10:18pm |
Can I ask where you obtained the A-C decal? I need 2 of them. Thanks!
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Bill (E.C.MO)
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Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 11:28pm |
EPALLIS,
If you mean the rear decal on my 601, it's the same as a common WD/WD45 hood decal. As I recall that one came from Maple-Hunter, but Jim Danforth, Norm, Tony & Barb and most of the vendors here offer that same decal.
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Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 6:55am |
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Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 7:02am |
Don't know what happened in the prior post. Seems to be a lot of talent on this post. Help me with my gear, please. Plate photo attached. What model is this one?  < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">
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Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 7:21am |
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Tom,
My understanding is that the first digit in the model number, in your case a 7 means that AC wagon is a 7 ton. I would go with a 701 for your model.
Danny
Edited by dannyraddatz - 08 Feb 2010 at 7:23am
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Bill (E.C.MO)
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Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 11:44pm |
For those who can't get enough wagon information, here are partial scans of the brochure for models 405, 505 and 605 running gears:
This is for the model 501 and 601 wagons, courtesy of Chad WI:
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Posted: 09 Feb 2010 at 3:09am |
 Chad(WI) wrote:
AF...I have a baby brother to yor 701. It still has the original bias ply BF Goodrich tires on it. Kinda crowded, so I had to put my 601 on it for the winter!
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I was kinda hoping it was mating season for AC running gears. That would sure help with the shortage!
Edited by redline - 09 Feb 2010 at 3:12am
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If it weren't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done!
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Posted: 09 Feb 2010 at 8:57am |
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Hey Bill, could you email me a higher quality scan of the manual for the 405 gear? Thanks!
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Bill (E.C.MO)
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Posted: 09 Feb 2010 at 10:44pm |
John,
...email sent your way.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 6:18am |
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Message for Tom
Would you let me make a drawing of this data plate and use it
in the alleged book that I am trying to write?
Thanks,
Dean
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Posted: 21 Mar 2011 at 6:36am |
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Sure....have at it.
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