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NomoreJohnDeere ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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One thing always leads to another
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Trans is problematic but doable with the seals I came up with, clutch discs are still out there as well, small internal parts not so much so. Running, able to load just difficult to offload only worth a grand or two especially is rails are as weak as appear.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Doc Allis has warned me it will likely be gutless with the replacement turbo, out of options as nothing else out there. Already receiving No Have responses from HE Salvage yards, General Gear was first, so far have six No can do's.
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3788 |
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i dont know what your looking at cost wise but i dont think it would be too difficult for a turbo shop to put something together to fit this application. plethora of options out there for truck turbos with compressor and turbine sizes, but i will keep this in mind for my grader with 7000 engine
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Biggest problem is exhaust housing is Done. No metal left in it so the T04B is a best or logical choice to build from, new housings, maybe impeller changes will be all that is required. The exhaust impeller on the T0448 is trash, at least 1/3 eroded away. Already talking to a few people that deal with the builds. Could possibly build a cartridge to fit the new housings. Only $400 and change so far getting this AllStatesAg unit, will see from where that takes me. It is supposed to Fit D19 and Up which the D19 had the least displacement/hp. Supposedly replaces Turbo 74024238
Engines: D262, D2800, D2900, D3400 (1980-2013) https://www.tractorpartsasap.com/turbocharger-new-allis-chalmers-74008894-gleaner-100543.html Edited by DMiller - 07 Jan 2020 at 2:32pm |
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53052 |
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Dave, look around your area for someone who does spray welding, it should be fixable...
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Replacement arrived, made or at least tested UK:
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JohnCO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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I got that same brand for my Cat powered Freightliner, still working fine after a year plus.
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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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HOOWEE what a mess. Got the rusted away retainer nuts off and removed the turbo and home made elbow, clocked up the replacement.
No changes needed for Oil Feed or Drain, all hose connections same. Do need to get replacement nuts and a outlet Flange Gasket. Steel parts for new elbow already ordered. |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Turbo is fully bolted down, connected to Intake but still covered on intake side, will not oil it up until get ready to start the engine. Checked with suppliers, pieces are all going to arrive around the 16th. Only trivial little stuff until then so taking a break.
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Lazyts ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Manitoba Points: 629 |
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Not sure if you found all the parts for the fan assembly yet or not? There's a guy on eBay - Mike's garage sale, who has all the fan assembly parts including the foam seal listed- it's the same as on the 11000 engines.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Got them from him, thanks. Saw the parts on Flea bay!! He was out of the seals for now but Minnpar came up with the Cork. Thanks for thinking of me. Bearings also cross to a 206WB and 205BB for AC Systems. Was oiling the turbo prior to buttoning up fittings, did not like the way the old grommet crimping nut tightened down. Thinking might change to conventional hoses. Parts should be meandering in for rest of next week, slowly will reconnect the dots,
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Chalk up MORE lost time to Fedex. Working on the replacement elbow in the shop get a Fedex notice Pkg Delivered. Did NOT hear a truck, go out to drive, NO truck tracks, look on house porch, No package so to the CONTACT Fedex page, get the Electronic POS, takes fifteen minutes to get a human. That gets a Lost Package notice to the Driver and says to expect a call in under two hours. Well two came and went, then two and a half woman from TN calls as to verification the package did not arrive, asks house color, style and landmarks to send to driver, rechecks address, makes sure I was home at time of reported delivery etc. Then lets me know may take as long as to Thursday to POTENTIALLY Locate the package IF it was delivered in err somewhere else, notates these are specialized parts hard to come by to the report going to the driver as if that person really gives a rat's butt they misdelivered.
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Ian Beale ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 986 |
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Driver practicing for a government job?
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Figuring they got launched to a dumpster as did not want to Find our place, does not come up on Google Maps. He or She has no clue what they lost/threw away. One can only hope they have no job after this.
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JohnCO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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A friend of mine lives on the corner of two major county roads, his mailbox is across the road from his house (the only house on that side of the road for over a mile). He has gotten 5 calls from Amazon trying to find his house. After telling them 5 times "The house is across the road from the mailbox", he no longer buys anything from Amazon. The house is less then 100 feet from the road with no trees blocking the view of it!
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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3788 |
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Charlie175 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6359 |
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That Turbo produces a whistle that is pretty loud as my 190XT can attest....
Good power but wear ear pro
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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May not ever hear it run.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Well got madder this morning, spent HOURS on the phone and Computer trying to locate TWO seemingly inconsequential parts, N/A or On Hand "0" kept coming back. So called Fedfks, REALLY livid, got hot tater passed THREE times until Heather caught my GROWING Ire. She busted her butt to get the Local District Manager to get with the delivery driver and Ride with that person to figure out WHERE these parts went. Past noon and still nothing around 1-1:30 checked for mail NADA as have MORE other crap coming, goes past 3, wife comes home FEDEX Box got put in Mailbox in Front of our other mail.
Then notice THREE Fedex vans running like stray cats all OVER the area, stopping conversing, something has been afoot and likely MORE than just my stuff. ALL the small parts were in the box and OK, so have a LOT to catch up with next few days. Edited by DMiller - 15 Jan 2020 at 5:46pm |
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3788 |
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catastrophe averted.
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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This time!!
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Got more assembled and installed today, may have been a better option to pull oil cooler bundles than wp housing, BEAR to get back on. As to exhaust did not complete, the 3" 90 I bought covers up the bolt holes so that will not work. Anyone here seen the inside of a 190XT turbo elbow? Will 2" be too restrictive at the turbo exhaust to elbow it up? This model tractor did have a "Aspirator" for the Air filter that was reduced to around 2" on the exhaust.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Spoke with Dr Allis Got the info aligned and parts coming. Going 2.5" at least until after makes turn. As of today:
Not the cleanest hog at the trough but closing in and will get a bath next warmup AFTER exhaust is plumbed up. |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Now it has Exhaust to at least the Hood. Once get the Hard nose on can see how well it aligns to the Hood hole pipe. Will finish the weld of the short pipe then.
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jerbob ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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Great job on the exhaust. Now she can inhale and exhale.
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HD16DC, Bobcat 863 Turbo, Oliver 1855, John Deere 855,
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Pretty much and better than that old slobbered up mess that was on it. Hood off donor is near to straight, will be the unit going back on it.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Hard nose hung today, got the hood to stack fit inspected and finished that welding. Radiator went back in, all coolant hoses done, lit it off. Does not squall from turbo but not black stacking either so believe this will do for my machine, alternator is charging, need to await a few warmer days and wash the engine area. Then have the engine belly pan to rehab, hang hood and start on the UC work.
https://youtu.be/K72-m35dEnE Edited by DMiller - 23 Jan 2020 at 1:52pm |
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jerbob ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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You’re lining it! Nicely done.! |
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HD16DC, Bobcat 863 Turbo, Oliver 1855, John Deere 855,
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32872 |
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Unblocked lift arms, set them down to rest, sat hood then the old short upper stack, typical of the breed the hood is short now as the dash are does no bolt in where used to and the pivot points for hard nose are worn, allows to shift forward. May end up making a Modification to keep the hood down in front. Exhaust lines up fine off the turbo where the old gal seems to be accepting the attention, L floor panel was missing a bolting ear so that got repaired too. All filters are replaced now, the fluids all full and just awaiting Warm Weather to pressure wash, will haul the Radiator spare valve cover and engine belly pan to car wash for deeper cleaning.
Edited by DMiller - 25 Jan 2020 at 7:06pm |
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