301 from gleaner M into 190

finaly got it in the barn monday and pulled the gas engine out. yesterday i pulled the torque tube off and took the power director apart. the front half is fine( the low side i believe) but the rear side was  completely destroyed. all the friction disks came out in multiply pieces. the rear half of the housing has a bunch of grooves in it and the inner hub is pretty much shot. also, the pto shaft, the shaft that is below the power director in the rear housing. is that the one with the seal that allows oil to leak between the compartments. it leaked oil the whole time i worked on it yesterday. gonna start pricing parts out today. the 301 came last week. i got a heavy duty clutch from rick, some exhaust gaskets and the intake pipe from the air filter to the turbo. i hope to have it together and running by the end of next week

Edited by screwylouie010 - 16 Apr 2014 at 12:34pm

i will get some pictures of the power director and the new engine after lunch. waiting for a quote on parts from sandy lake right now. yea i know its pretty high hopes, but the plan is to be polishing the mold boards up by next weekend

Edited by screwylouie010 - 16 Apr 2014 at 12:36pm

Good eye there Ed, small axels... My 190 gas has the small axels in it yet too... My XT diesel has the harden small axels because casting wouldn't accept the large axels...... Maybe his has been converted to the harden axel?  Yea, don't weight it down if its the origional axels.

it does have the small axles. i dont know how to tell if they have been hardened, but i doubt that they are. i wish it had the upgraded axles, but i got the tractor cheap enough($1200) with near new loaded rear tires, that i will upgrade to the larger axles and better differential when i pull the rear apart to fix 3rd gear. hopefully do that this fall or winter.  as far as the pole barn, it been chilly in the mornings but it been as high as 75 the last 2 weeks here. except for this morning, we got 2" of snow and it was about 30 degrees. i work out of the barn pretty much year rough though. few other pictures coming in a few minutes here

so all the high side plates came out in pieces. they wore into the housing but didnt ruin it. but they did wear on the hub, but that is also still usable. i have to get a new front side housing because where the piston fits in is scored badly. the piston, i was told will clean up and work ok. bill from sandy lake called me back this afternoon. they have a good used housing and will take my old as a core, but he still had to finish the quote for the rest of the parts.

frusturating ain't it...Theres days like that...  

so after all the rain lately, i got a few hours to work on the 190,  i do have a good flywheel coming from rick, since some measurements where a little funky on my. will be ordering all the parts from sandy lake when the milk check comes next week. well anyways, i took the combine fan off and put the 190 gas fan on. it sits 3/4" further forward from the valve cover than on the gas engine and about an inch and a quarter or so further up. this should not be a problem, just a little fitting of the fan shroud. also got the front pulley off so i can take it too the machine shop to be shortened. the rubber is a little dried up, does anyone know if i can get it rebuilt with new rubber? then on to the oil fill, since i have the inline pump on this engine, i have a block off plate where the fuel pump would go on the side of the block. i will use this plate and fabricate an oil fill so i dont have to cut a hole in the hood or take it off every time i wanna put oil in it since the fill is currently in the valve cover. i took the turbine outlet off the turbo, cleaned it up, put a new gasket in and reinstalled it but with the outlet pointing up. still have to take the manifold off and install new gaskets. as far as the starter and rear plate, i will have to reuse the rear plate from the tractor as the one from the combine is slightly different. i think this will also cause me to have to use the gas engine starter. the alternator is the same on both engines, just one has a single groove pulley and the other a double. then comes the radiator. the bottom outlet of the radiator is on the wrong side for this engine. my radiator is in good shape, well the core is anyways, the ends need some work. i am thinking i can take it to a radiator shop and have then fix it up and sides of the outlet and the drain petcock. it may cost a little more but will be a lot easier and cleaner. i started my hunt for a intercooler from a 7020 or possibly 1 from a 426. now my other thoughts or dreams rather, lol, how do i got about converting from 540 pto to the 540/1000 pto setup? would really like to have 1000 pto for running the generator when i have to. might even be picking up a 1000 pto discbine. also picked up a set, well 3, 9 bolt 34"duals at an auction the other day. have a set of hubs in the works. then got a decent set of firestone SAT 23* for 50 bucks to put on the duals. one needs a boot, no big deal. ok ill shut up now, here a crappy picture of what i got done today

already tried the oil fill from the gas engine. not even close to fitting.  i will be keeping the big oil cooler. im not even considering taking it of.as far as the 426 intercooler, im just going off what other guys have said to use, on here. said it will fit with some work and flows much better

I can never get pictures to upload from my phone. Will post them later. But gas engine oil fill is a completely different size and shape where it bolts to the block. The gas engine is a round hole with 2 3/8 bolts, one on each side. The 301 has the shape and bolt pattern of a mechanical fuel pump. It is a kind of elongated hole, with a 5/16 bolt on each side. Also the bolt hole a much closer together than on the gas engine

sorry it took so long, but here are the pictures. first one is the oil fill on the gas engine. second pictures is of the fuel pump block off plate on the 301 which i make into the oil fill

Edited by screwylouie010 - 07 May 2014 at 7:40am

Lou, that is a fuel pump mount..., just like in the pic of your gasoline engine.  Doesn't the block have a plate bolted over a hole higher up?  

I took a closer look at the 301 today. The oil fill hole is hidden behind the oil cooler

I should be able to run the 7020 intercooler either way, no?