190XT Hi-Lo issues

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   Hey guys I am having issues with the Hi-Lo on the 190XT i just bought. When it is cold the Hi-Lo will still pull when you put it in neutral and will pull the engine down when you start putting the brakes on. But once it warms up you can put it in neutral it will slow down but still drive but if you start putting on the brakes it will come to a stop and not pull the engine down. This tractor has sat for the last 7 years, I have known the tractor and old owner for 20+ yrs and he never had problems with it before he parked it. So I am wondering if the Hi-Lo cluthces could stick from sitting or what do you guys think I should start lookin for to fix this? The reason the tractor was parked was he quit farming. Thanks Jr 

Edited by 190XTJR - 12 Feb 2012 at 11:12am

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190XTJR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2010 Location: central, MN Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote 190XTJR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 190XT Hi-Lo issues Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 11:10am
	Hey guys I am having issues with the Hi-Lo on the 190XT i just bought. When it is cold the Hi-Lo will still pull when you put it in neutral and will pull the engine down when you start putting the brakes on. But once it warms up you can put it in neutral it will slow down but still drive but if you start putting on the brakes it will come to a stop and not pull the engine down. This tractor has sat for the last 7 years, I have known the tractor and old owner for 20+ yrs and he never had problems with it before he parked it. So I am wondering if the Hi-Lo cluthces could stick from sitting or what do you guys think I should start lookin for to fix this? The reason the tractor was parked was he quit farming. Thanks Jr Edited by 190XTJR - 12 Feb 2012 at 11:12am

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DougG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 7946	Post Options Post Reply Quote DougG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 11:50am
	Guess they could stick together - i,d use it a little see if it slips any - the creeping is kinda normal , some are worse than others , run it something will show

HagerAC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Location: SE MN Points: 1184	Post Options Post Reply Quote HagerAC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 12:25pm
	Maybe the oil in the PD is not right and is too thick causing more drag than a lighter oil would in cold temps. I would say work it a little and see if anything changes before digging into it.
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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19573	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 12:29pm
	I think you just need to not worry about it. There seems to be paranoia about the "creeping" issue. Are you actually going to use it on a hay baler or something that requires the neutral to be perfect?? I've got $$$$$ that says if the hydraulic oil temp is 140 degrees or more your perveived problem pretty much goes away. And no, the clutch discs don't "stick" together....they are covered with oil.

Hurst Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1201	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hurst Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 2:13pm
	Have you changed the oil yet? If it sat that long, it very well could've oxidized and thickened up. If you haven't done so, give it some fresh UTF and change the filters and I bet that helps. Hurst
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