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    Posted: 06 Oct 2016 at 3:37pm
Anybody have any pictures they could post of the factory correct rear wheel weights for a 185 with 28" spin out wheels.  Do they have a part # or casting # that is cast into them?
Are there different diameter weights depending on wheel diameter or is it a one size fits all 185's?  Also what do they weigh and how many can you put on or should put on.

Thanx,  Chris


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If you look in the knowledge based section there is a list. Am4483-1 is the correct weight. Takes 4 per wheel
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30" and 38" wheels take a one piece weight.


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Not sure in this case? but sometimes it makes a difference if early or late. This is our early 185 on 18.4-28 and what I believe are prim and proper front and rear weights.

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Butch those pie weights are what I have ony d17. Don't know if they didn't make them for long or if people just don't sell them but I think they are pretty hard to come by. The one peice weights like the wd has are much more common and can be stacked to get the same weight.
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I have the one piece one my 185 with 28 inch rims. Scott
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Eldon, are you saying that the style of weights in your picture will not fit with a 28" rim?  Do have a casting # and a weight / lbs of those style of weights?
I'm looking at a set of weights the seller say's came off a D17 and said they will fit a 185.  They look almost identical to the casting #AM2795-10 shown in the knowledge section link. I realize these may not be factory correct but would the fit / work?
Also how much weight can you put on the back of a 185 before things start to break?

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I don't think you can put enough steal weights to break things. The pie weights are 150 per wheel. This is nothing compared to what you get when you load the tires.

Or put another way like having your two teenage boys one on each fender as you drive out to the hay field...

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I have the same exact one piece rear wheel weights that Eldon has on the tractor in the pic and they are on 28" wheels and fit right. Might have a different casting number though, if there are two different sizes.   Rick
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180-185 pie weights are 75 lbs each or 300 pounds per wheel.
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

180-185 pie weights are 75 lbs each or 300 pounds per wheel.

Dope stupid me yes 4 per side not 2....
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Going from Memory, there is a maximum weight the manual says to put on a 185 by 28", 30", and 38" tire size. My Memory says it was something like 9100, with 30" and 9400 with 28". 38" was a lot less, something like 8000. There's sticker on mine for max weight with 30" tires.
I figured up my 185 weight with loaded 18.4-28 tires and front weight rack to be right a little under the weight limit. You'd have to really try to get overweight with the 28" tires like load them with fluid and stack on a bunch of weights.
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Originally posted by Rick Rick wrote:

I have the same exact one piece rear wheel weights that Eldon has on the tractor in the pic and they are on 28" wheels and fit right. Might have a different casting number though, if there are two different sizes.   Rick


They are probably the same, I never tried them on a 28" as I have lots of pie weights. I know the pie weights will not fit on a 30" rim, the centers have a different profile.
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Originally posted by Allis dave Allis dave wrote:

Going from Memory, there is a maximum weight the manual says to put on a 185 by 28", 30", and 38" tire size. My Memory says it was something like 9100, with 30" and 9400 with 28". 38" was a lot less, something like 8000. There's sticker on mine for max weight with 30" tires.
I figured up my 185 weight with loaded 18.4-28 tires and front weight rack to be right a little under the weight limit. You'd have to really try to get overweight with the 28" tires like load them with fluid and stack on a bunch of weights.


My 185 has a decal showing max weight, guess they were serious about it!
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So, the 185 came with both, the pie weights and the one piece weights then? Anyone know how much one of the one piece weights weigh? Say that real fast three times! LOL!  I have two one piece weights on each side, plus a full rack of weights and also have the rear tires loaded. It was that way when I got it...28" tires.   Rick
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Butch I believe you are correct. The on-line Agco parts book shows that 185's prior to S/N 12800 used 4ea pie weights per wheel and a 185 S/N 12800 and up used the one piece doughnut.

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checked my manual.
9400lbs 28"
9000 30"
8000 38"
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Rick, Scott in Tenn,

Are your 28" rims power adjust / spin outs???  Do the one piece / doughnut weights interfere or ride on the power adjust mechanism on the rims??

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My rims are power adjust and the weights do not interfere with the shift rail. HTH.      Scott
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Chris...My rims are power adjust and are 28". No, there is no interference with the power adjust mechanisms at all with those one piece weights and are not in any way...in the way! LOL! The number on the weights I have is: 256687  02-WA         Rick


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So...that also tells me that the weights in Eldon's picture will also fit the 28", 30" and 38" wheels then. Mine are exactly like those.   Rick
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Eldon,

Do you have the casting number and the weight of the single / doughnut ??

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I'd say they weigh around 140-150 lbs. each. They're heavy. Could be that there are different numbers on them, but mine look exactly like the ones Eldon has. Should be the same number that I posted...maybe.   LOL!   Rick
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In the knowledge base section the picture of the pie / sectional rear weights for a 185, casting # AM4483-1 appears to have came from a 28" wheel. Will these particular weights fit other size wheels or do they only fit a 28" ???

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I think (and can't prove it, but I think) the sectional pie weights will fit both 28" and 30" wheels. Not the 38" wheels.
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They will fit (cause there is a bolt hole there), but do not conform to the wheel profile and look goofy....same with the 38" centers.
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Note the weight bolt hole pattern and the PAW wedge positions....this is why the pie weights will not work on a 30" center. If you look at Butch's pic of the pie weight on 28" wheels you will see that they are centered between the wedges.


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Will fit on 38" centers, but cover up the wheel lugs....
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If you are not picky and don't want to cover up your lug bolts you can mount them like this, I guess....that is the way this one came on a 185 that I bought.
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Other than man-handling them on and off is there any advantage / disadvantage of the single doughnut versus the 4 pie weights?? From what I can glean off the previous posts the max weight you could achieve with the pie weights is 300# per wheel where as with the single doughnuts you could keep stacking them till you ran out of bolt length. Looks like Eldon has 3 doughnuts stacked together. At 140#-150# each that's approx. 435# per wheel.

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