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MilesGray (CO/KS) 
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 Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 12:02pm |
I did pull parts of the governor and other rather large pieces of metal out of the oil pan when I took it off. I did get the gear teeth from the part I replaced out of there. There didn't seem like there was any problem with the oil pump as I was getting oil to the rockers when I cranked the engine. Guess I will be taking lots of pictures and have lots of questions really soon!
As Pumpkin Man said in another post... I just need to get started and see what I find...
But that won't be until Friday
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Miles Gray (CO/KS)
5 1938 B's, 1940 B, 1944 WF C, 1948 NF C, Gleaner A, White Top Rotobaler, 1957 IH Golden Jubilee... I'm either a collector, or crazy!
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JohnCO
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Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 12:25am |
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Miles, Did you get the head off and see what there is to see? Just gotta know!
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Brad MI
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Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 4:57am |
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I would take the head off to check valves and pushrods before I did anything else. If I understand correct you've got the cam gear timing resolved so I see no reason to believe there's anything wrong with the bottom end at this point. If there is a problem with the bottom end get an engine stand and pull the engine.
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MilesGray (CO/KS)
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Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 8:28am |
John, I'm still in Denver and haven't left yet. I'm getting some heaters together so I can work on it out in the shed and hopefullly fix it without having to remove it from the tractor. If I have to remove it, then I have been told I can bring it inside the house!
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Miles Gray (CO/KS)
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Dick L
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Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 8:43am |
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Best two places in the house is in the center of the dining room table where you have plenty of room on all sides to lay parts and tools. There you can move around all sides to better see all the problems. The other place is with the engine on an engine stand in front of your recliner where you can lean back and watch TV while you are thinking about the next move. Just make sure you have a sturdy stand on both sides of the recliner to hold the tool box and parts and large free turning wheels on the engine stand so you can push it to one side when watching th TV. Also easir for the wife to clean up the droppins from the rug.
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Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 8:49am |
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I sorta like the kitchen table that way I don't have to walk too far to put the parts in the dishwasher.
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Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 8:53am |
Based on what you just said, Dick, I'd put Dixie on the same level as Mother Theresa!
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Bob D. (La)
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Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 8:56am |
Youll also be close to the oven to dry parts if you put it on the kitchen table.
Not to worry Miles, we won't get you in too much trouble. LOL
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:19am |
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And if you decide you need a snack, what better place to be than the kitchen?
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JohnCO
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 12:05am |
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Miles, It never ceases to amaze me as to how helpful the members of this forum are! I had never even thought about using the kitchen, and I'm single! (Perhaps that is why!)
Anyway, have fun, where ever you do the work.
I pulled the head on my B this evening, took all of half an hour. Spent another hour cleaning the dirt and wasp nest out of the cylinders. Maybe it didn't have spark plugs in it for 20 years or so. Two cylinders don't look too bad the middle two are about 1" down from TDC and are a bit rusty. Haven't been able to drive them down. May pull the pan and rod caps and try one at a time.
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 10:26am |
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Those rusty cylinders will be easier on the rods, crank, and block if you take off the rod caps and pull sleeves too, then go to the hydraulic press, but figure on having to replace or remachine parts.
Gerald J.
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MilesGray (CO/KS)
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 1:26pm |
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I'm actually going to put plastic down and then a canvas tarp to catch all the drippings, I use my laptop computer with a wireless connection to watch TV so I can move it around easier than the engine on the stand. My only problem is the off-sized front door that I have to get the engine stand through.
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Miles Gray (CO/KS)
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 1:28pm |
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John, have you tried just putting the 50/50 ATF/Acetone mix on top of the rusty cylinders and just letting it sit?
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 9:47pm |
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Miles, I tried the mix a couple years ago on the all-crop engine and it didn't work, at least not yet. I'll probably pull the head on that one sometime and check it out. The exhust has aways been covered and it had been stored inside until I got it. I suspect it is tight from sitting since at least 1983, when the owner passed away.
My plan for the B and C is to pull the best cylinder out of the B and put it in the C and get an engine kit for the B. The B is rare in that it has a adjustable wishbone front end and the C has a single wheel front end. I also have another C which I have misplaced the rods and pistons during a move. It will be a parts source for the other C and B.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 9:48pm |
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P.S. Have you gotten into your engine yet?
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