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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18849 |
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These are for ALL tractors, but mainly Allis. I don't know where I got all this information. Most of it is from here, but some is from other sites and from the manufacturers themselves. So, here's what you need to know. I know there will be a lot of others that add to this, so have at it. It'll help all the new kids on the block and us old fogeys who have CRS.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Persian Orange Paint From AGCO Persian Orange #1 In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60 (in Canada November 2012) In the Spray Can #79014664 ---- $14 (in Canada November 2012) They don't sell gallons. From AGCO Persian Orange #2 In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manuf Paint Color Ditzler Dupont NAPA Martin Seynor Tisco Name PPG Persian #1 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange 60080 3723L99 90R-3723 TP280 Persian #2 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange 60396 29047 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange 60856 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page From PPG Paints Allis Chalmers Cream--------------------------------- 8638 Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color----------- 23056 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81233 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81611 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81985 Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow----------------------- 81475 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)- 60080 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)- 60396 Allis Chalmers Orange-------------------------------- 60691 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange---------- 60856 Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------- 81330 Allis Chalmers Yellow--------------------------------- 81960 Allis Chalmers Yellow--------------------------------- 82373 Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------- 82630 Allis Chalmers Black----------------------------------- 9000 Allis Chalmers Black----------------------------------- 9300 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I sell the VanSickle paint in both Persain Orange 1 and 2 along with creme and many other colors. The cost is $9.00 per can plus shipping. The cans are slow drying paint but color matches very well. I also sell the the paint in gallons with hardner. I will be at the show in Fortwayne, In in April, or I can ship it. Thanks Matt 815-861-9636 evenings are best or please leave message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think there is a #1820 Krylon for Persion Orange 1. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange PPG Formula For OMNI Acrylic Urethane (MTK60080) (NO LONGER SOLD) Single Stage Color Qty: 1 Quart Code Color Cumulative Parts M117 Jet Black 15.4 15.4 M120 Tinting 35.2 19.8 M115 Yellow O 173.5 138.3 M114 Light Ch 326.6 153.1 M130 Orange 514.6 188.0 M195 Accelera 533.8 19.2 M149 Mixing C 1150.0 616.7 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange PPG Formula For Deltron "Concept" Acrylic Urethane (DCC60080) Single Stage Color Qty: 1 Quart PPG Color Library Color: Orange MSDS: DCC2 VOC: 4.11 Lead: 15.98% Code Color Cumulative Parts DMC90 Strong White 35.4 35.4 DMC90 Yellow Shade Moly Orange 1127.7 1092.3 DMC90 Medium Chrome Yellow 1489.6 361.9 DMC90 Carbon Black 1523.9 34.3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I like PPG Delastr Acrylic enamel 60080, perfect PO1 match, great paint. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PPG Automotive Finishes Tractor and Implement Colors Caution: This list was assembled using three different PPG sources plus input from others. There was no information concerning model or year, except as noted. Use this list at your own risk. There are no guarantees. I have only confirmed the AC early persian orange, sometimes referred to as "persian #1", as 60080. Most of the codes should be available in most, if not all, current PPG automotive paint chemistries, including the economy OMNI line. See your local PPG jobber for details. I strongly suggest first purchasing the smallest possible quantity in an attempt to verify the proper shade. Custom mixed colors are not returnable. Unfortunately, whenever a color proper name has multiple codes listed against it, I have no idea which one is appropriate for your application. If you are particular about shade, you may have to sample them all. If you wish to get information on the different chemistries available from PPG, including technical data sheets (detailed usage info) and material safety data sheets (MSDS=safety & health info), go to the PPG website. http://www.ppg.com/cr-refinish/phase1/frmHome.asp Allis Chalmers Cream------------------------------------ 8638 Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color-------------- 23056 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------ 81233 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------ 81611 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------ 81985 Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow------------------------- 81475 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)-- 60080 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)-- 60396 Allis Chalmers Orange----------------------------------- 60691 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange------------- 60856 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 81330 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 81960 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 82373 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 82630 Allis Chalmers Black--------------------------------------- 9000 Allis Chalmers Black---------------------------------------- 9300 American Crane Yellow------------------------------------- 82295 Blau Knox Yellow-------------------------------------------- 82069 Bobcat Red-------------------------------------------------- 72155 Bobcat Silver------------------------------------------------ 35388 Bucyrus Erie Yellow------------------------------------------ 82536 Bucyrus Erie Maroon---------------------------------------- 50743 Case Desert Sunset------------------------------------------ 81357 Case Desert Camouflage------------------------------------- 25829 Case Flambeau Red------------------------------------------- 3116 Case Flambeau Red------------------------------------------ 70138 Case Flambeau Red------------------------------------------ 71282 Case Black----------------------------------------------------- 9000 Case Black----------------------------------------------------- 9300 Case Black----------------------------------------------------- 9519 Case Dark Brown--------------------------------------------- 25550 Case Power Tan---------------------------------------------- 25549 Case Power Tan----------------------------------------------- 26071 Case Gray----------------------------------------------------- 32678 Case Corporate Red------------------------------------------ 72898 Case Red------------------------------------------------------ 73252 Case Medium Yellow------------------------------------------- 82305 Case Power Yellow - Medium - #B-174-21------------------ 82308 Case Tractor Industrial Yellow--------------------------------- 89962 Case Tractor Orange----------------------------------------- 60432 Case Tractor Orange----------------------------------------- 60703 Case Tractor Orange----------------------------------------- 60906 Case Tractor Yellow----------------------------------------- 89952 Case Manila White-------------------------------------------- 90393 Case White----------------------------------------------------- 8857 Caterpillar Highway yellow---------------------------------- 80979 Caterpillar Yellow (old - replaced by 80979)------------- 80021 Caterpillar Yellow---------------------------------------------- 81985 Caterpillar Yellow---------------------------------------------- 82454 Caterpillar Yellow---------------------------------------------- 83930 Caterpillar Yellow (Ford)------------------------------------ 81661 Caterpillar Yellow (GM)------------------------------------- 81993 Caterpillar Yellow (1996)------------------------------------ 82785 Caterpillar Yellow (1996)------------------------------------ 83922 Caterpillar New Yellow (most common)------------------ 82943 Caterpillar New Yellow--------------------------------------- 88046 Caterpillar Tractor Yellow----------------------------------- 80453 Caterpillar Tractor Beige------------------------------------- 22393 Caterpillar White---------------------------------------------- 2185 Caterpillar White---------------------------------------------- 98041 Caterpillar White (Ford)------------------------------------- 8709 Caterpillar Mojave Brown (1997)-------------------------- 28605 Caterpillar Slate Gray (1997)-------------------------------- 36435 Caterpillar Slate Gray (1997)-------------------------------- 36457 Caterpillar Black----------------------------------------------- 9000 Caterpillar Black----------------------------------------------- 9300 Caterpillar Black----------------------------------------------- 95020 Caterpillar High Gloss Black (1997)----------------------- 95021 Caterpillar Semi Gloss Black (1997)----------------------- 95022 Caterpillar Medium Gloss Black (1997)------------------- 95023 Caterpillar Low Gloss Black (1997)----------------------- 95024 Caterpillar Interior Brown----------------------------------- 25789 Clark Hi-Lift Olive Green------------------------------------ 40250 Clark Hi-Lift Yellow------------------------------------------ 81689 Clark Lift Light Green---------------------------------------- 2885 Clark Lift White----------------------------------------------- 2185 Clark Lift Truck Fire Engine Red-------------------------- 72203 Clark Lift Truck Gray (1965-1966)------------------------ 32583 Clark Lift Truck Green (1976)------------------------------ 42095 Clark Lift Truck Green (1977)(#1801564)---------------- 45415 Clark Lift Truck Olive Green (#1800641)---------------- 44705 Clark Lift Truck Orange (#1873147)---------------------- 60487 Clark Lift Truck Yellow (#1813150)---------------------- 81651 Clark Lift Truck White (#181570)------------------------- 8000 Clark Equipment Gray--------------------------------------- 32123 Clark Equipment Green (#180642)------------------------ 44540 Clark Equipment Green (#1800645)----------------------- 44205 Clark Equipment Orange------------------------------------ 60532 Clark Equipment Orange (Flat)----------------------------- 60533 Clark Equipment Yellow------------------------------------- 81302 Clark Equipment Yellow------------------------------------- 80502 Clark Yellow--------------------------------------------------- 81892 Cletra Orange-------------------------------------------------- 60045 Cletra Orange-------------------------------------------------- 60376 Cockshutt Tractor Red-------------------------------------- 78210 Cockshutt Tractor Harvest Gold--------------------------- 83761 Cockshutt Tractor Yellow----------------------------------- 88234 Crane Company Orange------------------------------------- 60431 Crane Carrier Orange----------------------------------------- 60583 David Brown Tractor White-------------------------------- 8638 Dempster Dumpster Gray----------------------------------- 31832 Dempster Dumpster Green---------------------------------- 45284 Ditch Witch Orange (New)---------------------------------- 61540 Ditch Witch Orange------------------------------------------ 60862 Euclid HIlite Green------------------------------------------- 45771 Euclid Maroon------------------------------------------------- 50743 Euclid Yellow-------------------------------------------------- 82536 Ferguson Gray------------------------------------------------ 30419 Ferguson Gray------------------------------------------------ 32830 Fiat Allis Orange---------------------------------------------- 60740 Fiat Allis Yellow---------------------------------------------- 2325 Ford Beige---------------------------------------------- ------- 33186 Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------ 30570 Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------ 32663 Ford Gray (1948 & 1954)----------------------------------- 32675 Ford Yellow--------------------------------------------------- 82536 Ford Light Yellow-------------------------------------------- 82549 Ford Red------------------------------------------------------- 2833 Ford Red (1947)---------------------------------------------- 70075 Ford Light Red------------------------------------------------ 72598 Ford Equipment Dark Blue---------------------------------- 12908 Ford New Tractor Red-------------------------------------- 71969 Ford New Tractor Silver------------------------------------ 33442 Ford Tractor Blue (1962)------------------------------------ 12720 Ford Tractor Blue (1963-1965) - M20J1639A----------- 12809 Ford Tractor Buff--------------------------------------------- 81339 Ford Tractor Gray-------------------------------------------- 30448 Ford Tractor Gray (1965) - M20J1750-A---------------- 32571 Ford Tractor Gray (1965)----------------------------------- 32571 Ford Tractor Green------------------------------------------ 42940 Ford Tractor Yellow (20J3132A)-------------------------- 82179 Ford Tractor Yellow (New) (M2J5394-A)--------------- 82291 Ford Tractor Orange Red----------------------------------- 71346 Ford Tractor Vermillion (1949)---------------------------- 3155 Ford Tractor Vermillion------------------------------------- 70205 Ford Tractor White------------------------------------------- 8712 Ford Tractor & Implement Buff #1640 (1967)---------- 22914 Ford Tractor & Implement Buff (1967)------------------ 4068 Ford Tractor & Implement Buff (1967)------------------ 4119 Gallion Highway Yellow------------------------------------- 80020 GM - Terex Green-------------------------------------------- 2960 GM - Terex Green-------------------------------------------- 2963 Gravely Tractor Beige---------------------------------------- 22136 Gravely Tractor Red------------------------------------------ 70186 Gravely Tractor Mustang Red (Orange)------------------ 60524 Husky Tractor Gold (FMC)-------------------------------- 22390 Husky Tractor White (FMC)------------------------------- 8377 Hyster Yellow------------------------------------------------- 82373 International Cub Cadet Yellow---------------------------- 81518 International Cub Cadet White (IH-901)------------------ 8665 International White (IH-902)-------------------------------- 90592 International White (IH-935)-------------------------------- 91607 International Apple Green #2------------------------------- 40055 International Blue---------------------------------------------- 10067 International Red---------------------------------------------- 2833 International Red (Light) #50------------------------------- 70019 International Gray #112 (Light)----------------------------- 30074 International Gray #110 (Dark)----------------------------- 30031 International Green Apple----------------------------------- 40250 International Harvester Red IH-2150---------------------- 71310 International Harvester Brown------------------------------ 20048 International Harvester Tan #31---------------------------- 20214 Jacobsen Power Lawnmower Orange--------------------- 60459 Jacobsen Power Lawnmower Orange--------------------- 60816 Jacobsen Lawn Tractor Orange---------------------------- 69916 John Deere Brown (Low Gloss Interior)------------------ 28374 John Deere Construction Yellow--------------------------- 81518 John Deere Contracting Equipment Yellow--------------- 81304 John Deere Dark Brown------------------------------------- 26151 John Deere Green--------------------------------------------- 40249 John Deere Green--------------------------------------------- 47910 John Deere Implement & Product Division Yellow----- 82009 John Deere Industrial Yellow------------------------------- 82295 John Deere Industrial Yellow------------------------------- 83018 John Deere Industrial Yellow------------------------------- 83558 John Deere Industrial Dealers Yellow--------------------- 81638 John Deere Snowmobile Green----------------------------- 45117 John Deere Tractor Green----------------------------------- 41374 John Deere Tractor Green----------------------------------- 46180 John Deere Yellow-------------------------------------------- 80186 John Deere Yellow (1967)------------------------------- ---- 81687 John Deere Yellow (1967)------------------------------- ---- 81058 John Deere Yellow (1967)----------------------------------- 81986 John Deere Yellow (1991)----------------------------------- 83416 John Deere Yellow (1995)----------------------------------- 81512 Kubota Orange------------------------------------------------ 60550 Kingboy Tractor Yellow------------------------------------- 82744 Komatsu Yellow---------------------------------------------- 2381 Komatsu Yellow---------------------------------------------- 82261 Komatsu New Yellow---------------------------------------- 83059 Komatsu New Blue------------------------------------------- 17080 Komatsu Orange---------------------------------------------- 60583 Marion Power Shovel Co. Charcoal----------------------- 32728 Marion Power Shovel Co. Neutral gray------------------- 32727 Marion Power Shovel Co. Red----------------------------- 71706 Massey Ferguson Red--------------------------------------- 72598 Massey Ferguson Silver Mist Gray (Met.) (M-1037)--- 31991 Massey Ferguson Yellow------------------------------------ 81518 Massey Ferguson Tractor Flint Gray (M-1026)--------- 31645 Massey Ferguson Tractor Flint Gray (Met.) (M-1025)- 31644 Massey Ferguson Tractor Red M-1017------------------ 70837 Massey Ferguson Tractor Yellow M-1023--------------- 81217 Massey-Harris Red------------------------------------------- 70364 Massey-Harris Red------------------------------------------- 70837 Massey-Harris Yellow---------------------------------------- 2492 Massey-Harris Yellow---------------------------------------- 80533 Minneapolis Moline Dyna Brown-------------------------- 22394 Minneapolis Moline Dyna Brown #2 (1967)------------- 23049 Minneapolis Moline Orange--------------------------------- 60740 Minneapolis Moline Prairie Gold--------------------------- 60098 Minneapolis Moline Prairie Gold #2----------------------- 60039 Minneapolis Moline Red------------------------------------- 71528 Minneapolis Moline Red------------------------------------- 70385 New Holland Tractor Red----------------------------------- 72263 New Holland Tractor Yellow------------------------------- 82348 Oliver Clover White (1959)--------------------------------- 8229 Oliver Clover White (1959)--------------------------------- 8805 Oliver Cletrac Orange---------------------------------------- 60583 Oliver Equipment Dark Charcoal--------------------------- 33768 Oliver Equipment Dark Charcoal--------------------------- 34347 Oliver Equipment Dark Charcoal #90833----------------- 33194 Oliver Equipment Green (1959)---------------------------- 42638 Oliver Equipment Silver Poly (Met.) #90832------------ - 8960 Oliver Equipment Green (1959)---------------------------- 41223 Oliver Green--------------------------------------------------- 45132 Oliver Green--------------------------------------------------- 40249 Oliver Green--------------------------------------------------- 40812 Oliver Industrial Yellow (1959)----------------------------- 81154 Oliver Industrial Yellow (1959)----------------------------- 82335 Oliver Orange-------------------------------------------------- 60433 Oliver Yellow-------------------------------------------------- 81892 Rex Chain Belt Bright Green-------------------------------- 45284 Rex Chain Belt Bright Orange------------------------------ 60691 Rex Chain Belt Medium Gray------------------------------ 31576 Rex Chain Belt Medium Green----------------------------- 44665 Rex Chain Belt Yellow--------------------------------------- 81985 Sperry New Holland Red------------------------------------ 61026 Sperry New Holland Yellow-------------------------------- 82536 Thew Lorain Shovel Co. Brown--------------------------- 22312 Thew Lorain Shovel Co. Yellow--------------------------- 81329 Toyota Fork Lift Orange------------------------------------ 60156 Versatile Tractor Red---------------------------------------- 72233 Warner-Swasey----------------------------------------------- 82073 Wheel Horse Tractor Red----------------------------------- 72034 White Farm Tractor Blue------------------------------------ 12773 White Farm Tractor Orange-------------------------------- 2235 White Farm Tractor Red------------------------------------ 72231 |
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CAL(KS)
Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3786 |
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
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DSeries4
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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BenGiBoy
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Definitely !
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'39 Model B
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pete386
Silver Level Joined: 04 Aug 2015 Location: eastern KS. Points: 66 |
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Thanks Ted.
This is wonderful for an old guy with CRS disease. |
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Grayray
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ambridge PA Points: 3818 |
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Absolutely!
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pete386
Silver Level Joined: 04 Aug 2015 Location: eastern KS. Points: 66 |
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Thanks Ted.
This is wonderful for an old guy with CRS disease. |
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18849 |
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Bob (IN)
Silver Level Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Location: SE IN Points: 294 |
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what about the green used on the early allis tractors
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great-grandpa's wc with picker, 20/35, speed patrol, uc, m crawler, 620, 653 dozer d21 d17 d19
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18849 |
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I could do some digging, but I don't think I've ever run into that?
Anybody else?? ESPECIALLY you guys that have them? |
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8394 |
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I'm pretty confused by some of the paint codes....Why are there so many Ford reds and grays, JD green and yellows, MM golds and reds, oliver greens, etc?
Ex: Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------ 30570 Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------ 32663 Ford Gray (1948 & 1954)----------------------------------- 32675 Ford Yellow--------------------------------------------------- 82536 Ford Light Yellow-------------------------------------------- 82549 Ford Red------------------------------------------------------- 2833 Ford Red (1947)---------------------------------------------- 70075 Ford Light Red------------------------------------------------ 72598 Ford Tractor Vermillion (1949)---------------------------- 3155 Ford Tractor Vermillion------------------------------------- 70205 Which one is which? I know the gray on the 9N's and 2N's were darker than the 8N gray, but the red on the 8N's, Jubilee, and I believe 800 series were the same. So why so many different codes? Just trying to make sense of all this. Thanks! |
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TBone
Silver Level Joined: 11 May 2014 Location: SWWI Points: 82 |
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It all had to do with the year of manufacture. Just like PO paint. PO #1 and PO#2.
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the first listed is the early paint and then somewhere along the way it changed (unless noted). HTH Creston. AND every batch was not the same. There were some variances in each lot and some were noticeable. |
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LeonR2013
Orange Level Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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You might try contacting AJ in Jefferson City, Mo. I think he has been working with a paint company to solve this PO color problem.
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CrestonM
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Why can't they just invent a machine that you just pour paint into, and it breaks it down into its components so you can see exactly what's in it, etc.? Then you could buy a quart of PO#1 from AGCO, pour it in, and get the code and adapt it for a real high-quality paint.
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BenGiBoy
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Start inventing!!!! (if you are lucky, when you make one of these witchy-gidgy machines, you will become rich and then you can buy lots of ORANGE TRACTORS! )
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'39 Model B
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Dnoym N. S. Can.
Orange Level Access Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Points: 544 |
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Creston M wrote
Why can't they just invent a machine that you just pour paint into, and it breaks it down into its components they make a machine for that it`s a hand-held spectrophotometers http://www.xrite.com/ma9x-family B:-) Dnoym |
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Jonny B 1938
Silver Level Joined: 21 Jul 2016 Location: Peotone IL. Points: 152 |
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So why is the Agco paint the same part number for Persion Orange #1 or #2 ? And nothing I have seen looks anything like the color of the original paint I have now on my 39 B?
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18849 |
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Because your B is 77 years old. It, like us, has faded over the years.
Depending on how much time they have sat in the sun, two tractors off the line, one in front of the other, will be different colors now also. NOTHING looks like the original paint, but now a days, they are close. I would imagine that the original paint had lead in it. Now......not in this day and age. |
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Jonny B 1938
Silver Level Joined: 21 Jul 2016 Location: Peotone IL. Points: 152 |
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I am having Sherwin Williams auto paying scan and match the inner part of thr grille, the paint looked pretty good as no sun or grease got to it. I was stunned at the cost of the GC industrial paint, it is top quality but WOW.
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Ken in Texas
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Henderson, TX Points: 5919 |
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I would not waste any time and money looking for a clean spot of paint on a 1938 B thinking if I could match it perfect it would be the exact color orange this B was when new. Your dreaming.
The accepted PO#1 for a long long time has been what you get when you mixed single stage PPG Omni using the PPG formula #60080. Match a sprayout or a part recently painted with PPG 60080 and be happy Jonny with what you got using what ever paint brand or type that floats your boat and pocket book. To me the correct color orange is everything anybody sees. In your case match PPG 60080. Hershal Adams and Vansikle PO#1 come awefull close ready mixed Edited by Ken in Texas - 28 Aug 2016 at 9:32pm |
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Jonny B 1938
Silver Level Joined: 21 Jul 2016 Location: Peotone IL. Points: 152 |
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It scoped out with a Sherwin Williams pre mix color exactly, I bought the GS series single stage and some epoxy primer to go under. I would imagine that the PPG code matches the Sherwin code, either way I smeared a dab on the inside of the grille and it is an exact match. Just a lot shinier gloss of course over the lead base or lacquer they used, not sure what the original base composition was but it sure was tough paint to hold up to 75 years of weather and dirt work.
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Ken in Texas
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You would not believe how transparent most auto paint orange and yellows are. Over different color primers, Example, Red verses Gray, you would swear the finish coats are different colors out of the same can.
Just as a test spray a clear pane of glass with any AC orange and see how many coats of color it takes to completely block out sunshine. |
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isn't that why yer trying to gits edjamcated for Creston?
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Jonny B 1938
Silver Level Joined: 21 Jul 2016 Location: Peotone IL. Points: 152 |
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I went with a grey base, the pigment is pretty heavy. I tried it on some plexy glass, it covered well with one coat. I am sending a sample to Jet Hot to have my manifold thermal ceramic coated to match inside and out. You can't buy a new one and it will absorb less heat also improving incoming air density. I have the original data tag and manifold in really nice condition.
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Lots of good info there Ted. I am repainting a 1979 8550 and have the orange and cream colors from a part # and name from Cloverdale Paints. Enamel and seems to go on pretty nice although it is pretty thin and needs several coats. I am just prepping the cab roof for paint and it appears to be white as opposed to the cast wheel centers that are cream. Is it white because it is faded from 38 years of sun? Or is it supposed to be cream or beige like the wheels? TIA. A picture of my last paint job in November- 1983 8070
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'39 Model B
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Orange Level Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: Clarksville, MO Points: 2249 |
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What is the correct yellow for the "B" Series L&G Tractors..ie B10..BIG TEN etc.
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190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more
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Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2017 Location: ohio Points: 170 |
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What year did they change from Persian 1 to Persian 2?
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LNG Luke
Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Minooka Il Points: 50 |
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What's the paint code for corporate orange?
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Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4934 |
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anyone know a code for the maroon used on 7000 series? We are having a local paint store mix it up, but would sure make it easier if we had a recipe to ensure it's correct! Thanks!
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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