Paint Codes
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Topic: Paint Codes
Posted By: Ted J
Subject: Paint Codes
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 8:12am
These are for ALL tractors, but mainly Allis. I don't know where I got all this information. Most of it is from here, but some is from other sites and from the manufacturers themselves. So, here's what you need to know. I know there will be a lot of others that add to this, so have at it. It'll help all the new kids on the block and us old fogeys who have CRS. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Persian Orange Paint
From AGCO Persian Orange #1 In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60 (in Canada November 2012) In the Spray Can #79014664 ---- $14 (in Canada November 2012) They don't sell gallons.
From AGCO Persian Orange #2 In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manuf Paint Color Ditzler Dupont NAPA Martin Seynor Tisco Name PPG Persian #1 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange 60080 3723L99 90R-3723 TP280
Persian #2 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange 60396 29047 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange 60856 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page From PPG Paints
Allis Chalmers Cream--------------------------------- 8638 Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color----------- 23056 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81233 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81611 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81985 Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow----------------------- 81475 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)- 60080 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)- 60396 Allis Chalmers Orange-------------------------------- 60691 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange---------- 60856 Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------- 81330 Allis Chalmers Yellow--------------------------------- 81960 Allis Chalmers Yellow--------------------------------- 82373 Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------- 82630 Allis Chalmers Black----------------------------------- 9000 Allis Chalmers Black----------------------------------- 9300 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I sell the VanSickle paint in both Persain Orange 1 and 2 along with creme and many other colors. The cost is $9.00 per can plus shipping. The cans are slow drying paint but color matches very well. I also sell the the paint in gallons with hardner. I will be at the show in Fortwayne, In in April, or I can ship it. Thanks Matt 815-861-9636 evenings are best or please leave message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think there is a #1820 Krylon for Persion Orange 1. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange PPG Formula For OMNI Acrylic Urethane (MTK60080) (NO LONGER SOLD) Single Stage Color Qty: 1 Quart
Code Color Cumulative Parts M117 Jet Black 15.4 15.4 M120 Tinting 35.2 19.8 M115 Yellow O 173.5 138.3 M114 Light Ch 326.6 153.1 M130 Orange 514.6 188.0 M195 Accelera 533.8 19.2 M149 Mixing C 1150.0 616.7
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Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange PPG Formula For Deltron "Concept" Acrylic Urethane (DCC60080) Single Stage Color Qty: 1 Quart PPG Color Library Color: Orange MSDS: DCC2 VOC: 4.11 Lead: 15.98%
Code Color Cumulative Parts DMC90 Strong White 35.4 35.4 DMC90 Yellow Shade Moly Orange 1127.7 1092.3 DMC90 Medium Chrome Yellow 1489.6 361.9 DMC90 Carbon Black 1523.9 34.3
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I like PPG Delastr Acrylic enamel 60080, perfect PO1 match, great paint. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PPG Automotive Finishes Tractor and Implement Colors
Caution: This list was assembled using three different PPG sources plus input from others. There was no information concerning model or year, except as noted. Use this list at your own risk. There are no guarantees. I have only confirmed the AC early persian orange, sometimes referred to as "persian #1", as 60080. Most of the codes should be available in most, if not all, current PPG automotive paint chemistries, including the economy OMNI line. See your local PPG jobber for details. I strongly suggest first purchasing the smallest possible quantity in an attempt to verify the proper shade. Custom mixed colors are not returnable. Unfortunately, whenever a color proper name has multiple codes listed against it, I have no idea which one is appropriate for your application. If you are particular about shade, you may have to sample them all. If you wish to get information on the different chemistries available from PPG, including technical data sheets (detailed usage info) and material safety data sheets (MSDS=safety & health info), go to the PPG website. http://www.ppg.com/cr-refinish/phase1/frmHome.asp
Allis Chalmers Cream------------------------------------ 8638 Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color-------------- 23056 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------ 81233 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------ 81611 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------ 81985 Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow------------------------- 81475 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)-- 60080 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)-- 60396 Allis Chalmers Orange----------------------------------- 60691 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange------------- 60856 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 81330 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 81960 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 82373 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 82630 Allis Chalmers Black--------------------------------------- 9000 Allis Chalmers Black---------------------------------------- 9300
American Crane Yellow------------------------------------- 82295
Blau Knox Yellow-------------------------------------------- 82069
Bobcat Red-------------------------------------------------- 72155 Bobcat Silver------------------------------------------------ 35388
Bucyrus Erie Yellow------------------------------------------ 82536 Bucyrus Erie Maroon---------------------------------------- 50743
Case Desert Sunset------------------------------------------ 81357 Case Desert Camouflage------------------------------------- 25829 Case Flambeau Red------------------------------------------- 3116 Case Flambeau Red------------------------------------------ 70138 Case Flambeau Red------------------------------------------ 71282 Case Black----------------------------------------------------- 9000 Case Black----------------------------------------------------- 9300 Case Black----------------------------------------------------- 9519 Case Dark Brown--------------------------------------------- 25550 Case Power Tan---------------------------------------------- 25549 Case Power Tan----------------------------------------------- 26071 Case Gray----------------------------------------------------- 32678 Case Corporate Red------------------------------------------ 72898 Case Red------------------------------------------------------ 73252 Case Medium Yellow------------------------------------------- 82305 Case Power Yellow - Medium - #B-174-21------------------ 82308 Case Tractor Industrial Yellow--------------------------------- 89962 Case Tractor Orange----------------------------------------- 60432 Case Tractor Orange----------------------------------------- 60703 Case Tractor Orange----------------------------------------- 60906 Case Tractor Yellow----------------------------------------- 89952 Case Manila White-------------------------------------------- 90393 Case White----------------------------------------------------- 8857
Caterpillar Highway yellow---------------------------------- 80979 Caterpillar Yellow (old - replaced by 80979)------------- 80021 Caterpillar Yellow---------------------------------------------- 81985 Caterpillar Yellow---------------------------------------------- 82454 Caterpillar Yellow---------------------------------------------- 83930 Caterpillar Yellow (Ford)------------------------------------ 81661 Caterpillar Yellow (GM)------------------------------------- 81993 Caterpillar Yellow (1996)------------------------------------ 82785 Caterpillar Yellow (1996)------------------------------------ 83922 Caterpillar New Yellow (most common)------------------ 82943 Caterpillar New Yellow--------------------------------------- 88046 Caterpillar Tractor Yellow----------------------------------- 80453 Caterpillar Tractor Beige------------------------------------- 22393 Caterpillar White---------------------------------------------- 2185 Caterpillar White---------------------------------------------- 98041 Caterpillar White (Ford)------------------------------------- 8709 Caterpillar Mojave Brown (1997)-------------------------- 28605 Caterpillar Slate Gray (1997)-------------------------------- 36435 Caterpillar Slate Gray (1997)-------------------------------- 36457 Caterpillar Black----------------------------------------------- 9000 Caterpillar Black----------------------------------------------- 9300 Caterpillar Black----------------------------------------------- 95020 Caterpillar High Gloss Black (1997)----------------------- 95021 Caterpillar Semi Gloss Black (1997)----------------------- 95022 Caterpillar Medium Gloss Black (1997)------------------- 95023 Caterpillar Low Gloss Black (1997)----------------------- 95024 Caterpillar Interior Brown----------------------------------- 25789
Clark Hi-Lift Olive Green------------------------------------ 40250 Clark Hi-Lift Yellow------------------------------------------ 81689 Clark Lift Light Green---------------------------------------- 2885 Clark Lift White----------------------------------------------- 2185 Clark Lift Truck Fire Engine Red-------------------------- 72203 Clark Lift Truck Gray (1965-1966)------------------------ 32583 Clark Lift Truck Green (1976)------------------------------ 42095 Clark Lift Truck Green (1977)(#1801564)---------------- 45415 Clark Lift Truck Olive Green (#1800641)---------------- 44705 Clark Lift Truck Orange (#1873147)---------------------- 60487 Clark Lift Truck Yellow (#1813150)---------------------- 81651 Clark Lift Truck White (#181570)------------------------- 8000 Clark Equipment Gray--------------------------------------- 32123 Clark Equipment Green (#180642)------------------------ 44540 Clark Equipment Green (#1800645)----------------------- 44205 Clark Equipment Orange------------------------------------ 60532 Clark Equipment Orange (Flat)----------------------------- 60533 Clark Equipment Yellow------------------------------------- 81302 Clark Equipment Yellow------------------------------------- 80502 Clark Yellow--------------------------------------------------- 81892
Cletra Orange-------------------------------------------------- 60045 Cletra Orange-------------------------------------------------- 60376
Cockshutt Tractor Red-------------------------------------- 78210 Cockshutt Tractor Harvest Gold--------------------------- 83761 Cockshutt Tractor Yellow----------------------------------- 88234
Crane Company Orange------------------------------------- 60431 Crane Carrier Orange----------------------------------------- 60583
David Brown Tractor White-------------------------------- 8638
Dempster Dumpster Gray----------------------------------- 31832 Dempster Dumpster Green---------------------------------- 45284
Ditch Witch Orange (New)---------------------------------- 61540 Ditch Witch Orange------------------------------------------ 60862
Euclid HIlite Green------------------------------------------- 45771 Euclid Maroon------------------------------------------------- 50743 Euclid Yellow-------------------------------------------------- 82536
Ferguson Gray------------------------------------------------ 30419 Ferguson Gray------------------------------------------------ 32830
Fiat Allis Orange---------------------------------------------- 60740 Fiat Allis Yellow---------------------------------------------- 2325
Ford Beige---------------------------------------------- ------- 33186 Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------ 30570 Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------ 32663 Ford Gray (1948 & 1954)----------------------------------- 32675 Ford Yellow--------------------------------------------------- 82536 Ford Light Yellow-------------------------------------------- 82549 Ford Red------------------------------------------------------- 2833 Ford Red (1947)---------------------------------------------- 70075 Ford Light Red------------------------------------------------ 72598 Ford Equipment Dark Blue---------------------------------- 12908 Ford New Tractor Red-------------------------------------- 71969 Ford New Tractor Silver------------------------------------ 33442 Ford Tractor Blue (1962)------------------------------------ 12720 Ford Tractor Blue (1963-1965) - M20J1639A----------- 12809 Ford Tractor Buff--------------------------------------------- 81339 Ford Tractor Gray-------------------------------------------- 30448 Ford Tractor Gray (1965) - M20J1750-A---------------- 32571 Ford Tractor Gray (1965)----------------------------------- 32571 Ford Tractor Green------------------------------------------ 42940 Ford Tractor Yellow (20J3132A)-------------------------- 82179 Ford Tractor Yellow (New) (M2J5394-A)--------------- 82291 Ford Tractor Orange Red----------------------------------- 71346 Ford Tractor Vermillion (1949)---------------------------- 3155 Ford Tractor Vermillion------------------------------------- 70205 Ford Tractor White------------------------------------------- 8712 Ford Tractor & Implement Buff #1640 (1967)---------- 22914 Ford Tractor & Implement Buff (1967)------------------ 4068 Ford Tractor & Implement Buff (1967)------------------ 4119
Gallion Highway Yellow------------------------------------- 80020
GM - Terex Green-------------------------------------------- 2960 GM - Terex Green-------------------------------------------- 2963
Gravely Tractor Beige---------------------------------------- 22136 Gravely Tractor Red------------------------------------------ 70186 Gravely Tractor Mustang Red (Orange)------------------ 60524
Husky Tractor Gold (FMC)-------------------------------- 22390 Husky Tractor White (FMC)------------------------------- 8377
Hyster Yellow------------------------------------------------- 82373
International Cub Cadet Yellow---------------------------- 81518 International Cub Cadet White (IH-901)------------------ 8665 International White (IH-902)-------------------------------- 90592 International White (IH-935)-------------------------------- 91607 International Apple Green #2------------------------------- 40055 International Blue---------------------------------------------- 10067 International Red---------------------------------------------- 2833 International Red (Light) #50------------------------------- 70019 International Gray #112 (Light)----------------------------- 30074 International Gray #110 (Dark)----------------------------- 30031 International Green Apple----------------------------------- 40250 International Harvester Red IH-2150---------------------- 71310 International Harvester Brown------------------------------ 20048 International Harvester Tan #31---------------------------- 20214
Jacobsen Power Lawnmower Orange--------------------- 60459 Jacobsen Power Lawnmower Orange--------------------- 60816 Jacobsen Lawn Tractor Orange---------------------------- 69916
John Deere Brown (Low Gloss Interior)------------------ 28374 John Deere Construction Yellow--------------------------- 81518 John Deere Contracting Equipment Yellow--------------- 81304 John Deere Dark Brown------------------------------------- 26151 John Deere Green--------------------------------------------- 40249 John Deere Green--------------------------------------------- 47910 John Deere Implement & Product Division Yellow----- 82009 John Deere Industrial Yellow------------------------------- 82295 John Deere Industrial Yellow------------------------------- 83018 John Deere Industrial Yellow------------------------------- 83558 John Deere Industrial Dealers Yellow--------------------- 81638 John Deere Snowmobile Green----------------------------- 45117 John Deere Tractor Green----------------------------------- 41374 John Deere Tractor Green----------------------------------- 46180 John Deere Yellow-------------------------------------------- 80186 John Deere Yellow (1967)------------------------------- ---- 81687 John Deere Yellow (1967)------------------------------- ---- 81058 John Deere Yellow (1967)----------------------------------- 81986 John Deere Yellow (1991)----------------------------------- 83416 John Deere Yellow (1995)----------------------------------- 81512
Kubota Orange------------------------------------------------ 60550
Kingboy Tractor Yellow------------------------------------- 82744
Komatsu Yellow---------------------------------------------- 2381 Komatsu Yellow---------------------------------------------- 82261 Komatsu New Yellow---------------------------------------- 83059 Komatsu New Blue------------------------------------------- 17080 Komatsu Orange---------------------------------------------- 60583
Marion Power Shovel Co. Charcoal----------------------- 32728 Marion Power Shovel Co. Neutral gray------------------- 32727 Marion Power Shovel Co. Red----------------------------- 71706
Massey Ferguson Red--------------------------------------- 72598 Massey Ferguson Silver Mist Gray (Met.) (M-1037)--- 31991 Massey Ferguson Yellow------------------------------------ 81518 Massey Ferguson Tractor Flint Gray (M-1026)--------- 31645 Massey Ferguson Tractor Flint Gray (Met.) (M-1025)- 31644 Massey Ferguson Tractor Red M-1017------------------ 70837 Massey Ferguson Tractor Yellow M-1023--------------- 81217
Massey-Harris Red------------------------------------------- 70364 Massey-Harris Red------------------------------------------- 70837 Massey-Harris Yellow---------------------------------------- 2492 Massey-Harris Yellow---------------------------------------- 80533
Minneapolis Moline Dyna Brown-------------------------- 22394 Minneapolis Moline Dyna Brown #2 (1967)------------- 23049 Minneapolis Moline Orange--------------------------------- 60740 Minneapolis Moline Prairie Gold--------------------------- 60098 Minneapolis Moline Prairie Gold #2----------------------- 60039 Minneapolis Moline Red------------------------------------- 71528 Minneapolis Moline Red------------------------------------- 70385
New Holland Tractor Red----------------------------------- 72263 New Holland Tractor Yellow------------------------------- 82348
Oliver Clover White (1959)--------------------------------- 8229 Oliver Clover White (1959)--------------------------------- 8805 Oliver Cletrac Orange---------------------------------------- 60583 Oliver Equipment Dark Charcoal--------------------------- 33768 Oliver Equipment Dark Charcoal--------------------------- 34347 Oliver Equipment Dark Charcoal #90833----------------- 33194 Oliver Equipment Green (1959)---------------------------- 42638 Oliver Equipment Silver Poly (Met.) #90832------------ - 8960 Oliver Equipment Green (1959)---------------------------- 41223 Oliver Green--------------------------------------------------- 45132 Oliver Green--------------------------------------------------- 40249 Oliver Green--------------------------------------------------- 40812 Oliver Industrial Yellow (1959)----------------------------- 81154 Oliver Industrial Yellow (1959)----------------------------- 82335 Oliver Orange-------------------------------------------------- 60433 Oliver Yellow-------------------------------------------------- 81892
Rex Chain Belt Bright Green-------------------------------- 45284 Rex Chain Belt Bright Orange------------------------------ 60691 Rex Chain Belt Medium Gray------------------------------ 31576 Rex Chain Belt Medium Green----------------------------- 44665 Rex Chain Belt Yellow--------------------------------------- 81985
Sperry New Holland Red------------------------------------ 61026 Sperry New Holland Yellow-------------------------------- 82536
Thew Lorain Shovel Co. Brown--------------------------- 22312 Thew Lorain Shovel Co. Yellow--------------------------- 81329
Toyota Fork Lift Orange------------------------------------ 60156
Versatile Tractor Red---------------------------------------- 72233
Warner-Swasey----------------------------------------------- 82073
Wheel Horse Tractor Red----------------------------------- 72034
White Farm Tractor Blue------------------------------------ 12773 White Farm Tractor Orange-------------------------------- 2235 White Farm Tractor Red------------------------------------ 72231
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 8:23am
KNOWLEDGE BASE<-------
------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 9:17am
CAL(KS) wrote:
KNOWLEDGE BASE<------- |
Ditto!
------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 11:56am
DSeries4 wrote:
CAL(KS) wrote:
KNOWLEDGE BASE<------- |
Ditto!
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Definitely !
------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that!
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Posted By: pete386
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 4:08pm
Thanks Ted. This is wonderful for an old guy with CRS disease.
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Posted By: Grayray
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 4:58pm
DSeries4 wrote:
CAL(KS) wrote:
KNOWLEDGE BASE<------- |
Ditto!
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Absolutely!
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Posted By: pete386
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 5:06pm
Thanks Ted. This is wonderful for an old guy with CRS disease.
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 8:37pm
pete386 wrote:
Thanks Ted. This is wonderful for an old guy with CRS disease. | Mike that 2nd time made my day!! I'm still laughing!!
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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Posted By: Bob (IN)
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2016 at 4:59pm
what about the green used on the early allis tractors
------------- great-grandpa's wc with picker, 20/35, speed patrol, uc, m crawler, 620, 653 dozer d21 d17 d19
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2016 at 7:14pm
I could do some digging, but I don't think I've ever run into that? Anybody else?? ESPECIALLY you guys that have them?
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2016 at 11:26pm
I'm pretty confused by some of the paint codes....Why are there so many Ford reds and grays, JD green and yellows, MM golds and reds, oliver greens, etc?
Ex: Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------ 30570 Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------ 32663 Ford Gray (1948 & 1954)----------------------------------- 32675 Ford Yellow--------------------------------------------------- 82536 Ford Light Yellow-------------------------------------------- 82549 Ford Red------------------------------------------------------- 2833 Ford Red (1947)---------------------------------------------- 70075 Ford Light Red------------------------------------------------ 72598 Ford Tractor Vermillion (1949)---------------------------- 3155 Ford Tractor Vermillion------------------------------------- 70205
Which one is which? I know the gray on the 9N's and 2N's were darker than the 8N gray, but the red on the 8N's, Jubilee, and I believe 800 series were the same. So why so many different codes? Just trying to make sense of all this. Thanks!
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Posted By: TBone
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2016 at 7:55am
It all had to do with the year of manufacture. Just like PO paint. PO #1 and PO#2. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the first listed is the early paint and then somewhere along the way it changed (unless noted). HTH Creston. AND every batch was not the same. There were some variances in each lot and some were noticeable.
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Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2016 at 11:48pm
You might try contacting AJ in Jefferson City, Mo. I think he has been working with a paint company to solve this PO color problem.
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2016 at 3:33pm
Why can't they just invent a machine that you just pour paint into, and it breaks it down into its components so you can see exactly what's in it, etc.? Then you could buy a quart of PO#1 from AGCO, pour it in, and get the code and adapt it for a real high-quality paint.
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Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 8:26am
CrestonM wrote:
Why can't they just invent a machine that you just pour paint into, and it breaks it down into its components so you can see exactly what's in it, etc.? Then you could buy a quart of PO#1 from AGCO, pour it in, and get the code and adapt it for a real high-quality paint. |
Start inventing! ! ! ! (if you are lucky, when you make one of these witchy-gidgy machines, you will become rich and then you can buy lots of ORANGE TRACTORS! )
------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that!
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Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 7:11pm
Creston M wrote
Why can't they just invent a machine that you just pour paint into, and it breaks it down into its components
they make a machine for that it`s a hand-held spectrophotometers
http://www.xrite.com/ma9x-family" rel="nofollow - http://www.xrite.com/ma9x-family
B:-) Dnoym
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Posted By: Jonny B 1938
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2016 at 5:04pm
So why is the Agco paint the same part number for Persion Orange #1 or #2 ? And nothing I have seen looks anything like the color of the original paint I have now on my 39 B?
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2016 at 10:30am
Because your B is 77 years old. It, like us, has faded over the years. Depending on how much time they have sat in the sun, two tractors off the line, one in front of the other, will be different colors now also. NOTHING looks like the original paint, but now a days, they are close. I would imagine that the original paint had lead in it. Now......not in this day and age.
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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Posted By: Jonny B 1938
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2016 at 1:04pm
I am having Sherwin Williams auto paying scan and match the inner part of thr grille, the paint looked pretty good as no sun or grease got to it. I was stunned at the cost of the GC industrial paint, it is top quality but WOW.
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2016 at 5:44am
I would not waste any time and money looking for a clean spot of paint on a 1938 B thinking if I could match it perfect it would be the exact color orange this B was when new. Your dreaming. The accepted PO#1 for a long long time has been what you get when you mixed single stage PPG Omni using the PPG formula #60080. Match a sprayout or a part recently painted with PPG 60080 and be happy Jonny with what you got using what ever paint brand or type that floats your boat and pocket book. To me the correct color orange is everything anybody sees. In your case match PPG 60080. Hershal Adams and Vansikle PO#1 come awefull close ready mixed
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Posted By: Jonny B 1938
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 1:51pm
It scoped out with a Sherwin Williams pre mix color exactly, I bought the GS series single stage and some epoxy primer to go under. I would imagine that the PPG code matches the Sherwin code, either way I smeared a dab on the inside of the grille and it is an exact match. Just a lot shinier gloss of course over the lead base or lacquer they used, not sure what the original base composition was but it sure was tough paint to hold up to 75 years of weather and dirt work.
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 3:21pm
You would not believe how transparent most auto paint orange and yellows are. Over different color primers, Example, Red verses Gray, you would swear the finish coats are different colors out of the same can. Just as a test spray a clear pane of glass with any AC orange and see how many coats of color it takes to completely block out sunshine.
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Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 3:27pm
isn't that why yer trying to gits edjamcated for Creston?
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Posted By: Jonny B 1938
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 10:42pm
I went with a grey base, the pigment is pretty heavy. I tried it on some plexy glass, it covered well with one coat. I am sending a sample to Jet Hot to have my manifold thermal ceramic coated to match inside and out. You can't buy a new one and it will absorb less heat also improving incoming air density. I have the original data tag and manifold in really nice condition.
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Posted By: Transaxial
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2017 at 8:13pm
Lots of good info there Ted. I am repainting a 1979 8550 and have the orange and cream colors from a part # and name from Cloverdale Paints. Enamel and seems to go on pretty nice although it is pretty thin and needs several coats. I am just prepping the cab roof for paint and it appears to be white as opposed to the cast wheel centers that are cream. Is it white because it is faded from 38 years of sun? Or is it supposed to be cream or beige like the wheels? TIA. A picture of my last paint job in November- 1983 8070
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Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2017 at 9:59am
------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that!
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Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2017 at 9:28pm
What is the correct yellow for the "B" Series L&G Tractors..ie B10..BIG TEN etc.
------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more
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Posted By: fourthgeneration
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2017 at 6:46pm
What year did they change from Persian 1 to Persian 2?
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Posted By: LNG Luke
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 3:25pm
What's the paint code for corporate orange?
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 12:40pm
anyone know a code for the maroon used on 7000 series? We are having a local paint store mix it up, but would sure make it easier if we had a recipe to ensure it's correct! Thanks!
------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: kblackav8or
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2018 at 12:11am
An old post. Which of those earth moving colors would be correct for a 1965 HD6?
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2018 at 2:57pm
This is a 'sticky' in the https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/farm-equipment-knowledge-base_forum18.html" rel="nofollow - Farm Equipment -Knowledge Base . This is a place to find IMPORTANT things that get asked questions about all the time. It is just that, a "Knowledge Base". You will want to go into the https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/construction-and-other-equipment_forum3.html" rel="nofollow - Construction and other equipment and ask your question. The guys in there know their stuff!! Hope this helps.
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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Posted By: Dale (Stonelick)
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 11:17am
Meijer had (9/13/2019) 12oz rattle cans of Rust-oleum Painter's Touch 2X Ultra Cover Gloss Real Orange on sale two for $4.50. When I tried it out, it seemed to have a nice pumpkin orange color - I just hope it doesn't fade to pink on my 1951 CA. I'm trying to find out if Lowes will mix it in gallon cans.
I could only find one place that would quote mixing the Persian Orange #1 paint (using formulation given above) - that was KOI Auto Parts (Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana). $359/gallon, $111/quart and $30/rattle can + sales tax. That's too much $ for me.
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 7:59pm
Have you tried getting Valspar paint from an AGCO dealer? I just got 4 quarts of Persian Orange for about $160.
Here's a link for numbers and info: file:///C:/Users/curt1/Downloads/original%20%284%29.pdf" rel="nofollow - file:///C:/Users/curt1/Downloads/original%20(4).pdf
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Posted By: 4BA_D-17
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 11:14pm
Does anyone know where you can get the cloth webbing that goes under the fuel tank, the tank strap , and the hood panels for the D series?
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Posted By: Alvin M
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 8:28am
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 10:31am
4BA_D-17 wrote:
Does anyone know where you can get the cloth webbing that goes under the fuel tank, the tank strap , and the hood panels for the D series? |
I went to Jo-Ann fabrics with the wife and picked up cotton webbing for my WC's gas tank. Way cheaper than buying a cut piece from a 'supplier' an d I had some left over.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
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Posted By: orange
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2020 at 9:48am
Does anyone know the correct paint codes for the 8000 series orange ? white ? black? in probably ppg ? Thanks Terry
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 8:07am
Since no one has answered, I will take a stab. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the 8000 series used the "Tractor and Equipment Orange".
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Page From PPG Paints
Allis Chalmers Cream--------------------------------- 8638 Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color----------- 23056 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81233 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81611 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81985 Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow----------------------- 81475 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)- 60080 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)- 60396 Allis Chalmers Orange-------------------------------- 60691 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange---------- 60856 Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------- 81330 Allis Chalmers Yellow--------------------------------- 81960 Allis Chalmers Yellow--------------------------------- 82373 Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------- 82630 Allis Chalmers Black----------------------------------- 9000 Allis Chalmers Black----------------------------------- 9300
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Posted By: LaJaMe
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 2:56pm
Does anyone have any updated NAPA #'s for PO#1 Working on my 45. My NAPA stores doesn't recognize the #'s listed above Thanks
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2020 at 1:03pm
As listed in the original post, the NAPA # is 3723L99. They don't recognize this number?
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2023 at 5:50am
I have a late 7020 and I took a stab and had the 60691 mixed for it. It is definitly not it. It is even too yellow I think for Persian #1. My paint supplier is tinting it to match the underside of a panel that still looks new.
------------- '59 D14 '68 170 Diesel '81 7020 40 All Crop
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2023 at 6:26am
A 7020 (and all tractors built from late 1977 til ?? were called "Corporate Orange" and that color ain't listed there, It is different than either of the Persian Orange colors.
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Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2023 at 6:51am
I wonder what the number would be for Corporate Orange?
------------- '59 D14 '68 170 Diesel '81 7020 40 All Crop
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2023 at 9:38pm
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2023 at 7:14pm
I would have used Agco paint if I had a dealer handy. I painted some Oliver parts a few years ago with Agco paint and it was some of the best paint I have ever used. I do bodywork and my paint supplier came up the 60856 number for Omni and that is what I am using. Thanks
------------- '59 D14 '68 170 Diesel '81 7020 40 All Crop
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2024 at 6:10pm
BUMP
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2024 at 7:44pm
found this with punching in one of the numbers. Has some color swatches:
https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?make=Allis%20Chalmers" rel="nofollow - https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?make=Allis%20Chalmers
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