Old Workhorse needs a new Loving home.

I need to sell this tractor,
Here
, as quickly as someone wants to own it.
    It is a wonderful machine which my dad used to create the hole it is sitting in. It was going to be a pool.   The removed limestone went to pave the road.
     Dad died a few years ago, and the tractor has been sitting since.   I am sure there is still fuel in the tank. Dad and I built the cab, which is removable. The property that it is on In currency under suit for repossession on a back tax lien.
     The tractor needs work, but is priced accordingly.    It has a three tooth ripper, and a bucket that I believe is a 2.5 yd bucket, which he later purchased and we installed.    My memory might be incorrect, and it is possible that it is a 1.5 yd bucket.
     I am sure the engine is still strong, but I am not going to trust the hydraulic lines.   Not sure of the condition of the filters or anything else.   I was in a hurry and didn't have time to get the reference numbers off of the plate.
     I am not sure of it is a 7g or a 7gB, and am willing to negotiate on pricing, but must move on a now time frame.   Serious inquiries only, please.   
     
     Johnathon, [830] 992-7014 or email me.

Edited by Old7g?forSale - 06 Apr 2015 at 9:28pm

I'll fix it, right now.

Hold on.

Where is it located? 

Phone number is located in San Antonio, Tx, if that helps any.
  David from jax

You should really slide a set of batteries in that machine, get it started and moved out of the hole, get it where it can be seen and operated and possibly a local would pick it up.

Last day.    Going to schedule with the scrapers today.   Last chance, people.

I have only slightly more info than I posted.   This tractor, and the problem of the land it sits on fell into my lap about a week ago.   The court date about the
whole repossesion of the property situation is next week, so...    Additionally, I had no idea how to value it, really considering the work it needs.    But, anyway. I am going to call them this afternoon.

If the "whole repossession of property situation" is NEXT week why are you trying to scrap it THIS week??? Seems like you at least have a little more time, more likely a bit more as i can't believe that from the time you found out about this situation to its conclusion will be 2 weeks. Hate to see old potentially working stuff get cut up cause its the easier route. If you are pondering keeping the engine then you HAVE the effort to save the whole damn machine.

I respect the thought of the initial request, but I'll concur with the suggestion that commanding committal with such limited timeframe and ambiguous information is extremely short-sighted.

The logistical consequences of extracting an 11-ton machine from an unknown 'hole' in an undescribed location where it's been sitting for a good long time, is hardly a trivial matter. I like the challenge of moving things, but I don't carry a 130-ton crane and a spread-axle drop-deck in my carry-on handbag. I HIRE cranes and trucking companies, they're not cheap, and they have other customers' schedules to meet too.

The first and foremost preferred method of extraction, is just as a previos poster suggested- get batteries in it, fire it up, and drive it out of the hole. If it doesn't drive, the magnitude of logistical investment immediately goes up by three orders-of-magnitude, and under short-term pressure, add another order-of-magnitude.

The result, is that the cost to remove it, increases in scale dramatically, while the monetary value of it, drops to nothing. That leaves the committed individual deeper in the hole, than the machine. That is an extremely unwise risk, considering you expressed want to 'move it now, discuss price later'. Only a fool would step in that trap.

What is ironic, is that if you want the engine, you won't be pulling it out of the machine in 3 days. If you find a scrapper that CAN extract it, they very well may pass, because their cost to extract exceeds market value of the recycleable sale. Don't be surprised if respondants sound insulted by your offer... many would have bent over backwards to extract it to safety, so that someone who could actually afford to transport and restore it, COULD... but the circumstances under which you posted it don't seem to pass the litmus test.

Edited by DaveKamp - 14 Apr 2015 at 12:06am

Yea. I am not worried about making money on the deal. There is none to be made.   I just don't want to see it die a slow death of rust.

Okay, so since the circumstances have changed slightly, I placed a call to someone who is IN the area, who isn't a particular expert on tracked equipment or Allis, may or may not be interested in adopting, but has space and probably willingness to store it whilst waiting for an adoptee, and is a natural with respect to assessing machinery situations, internal combustion, hydraulics, etc. and is also quite capable of setting up resources to extract it, regardless of wether it's an 'easy' drive-out, or much more involved. The general plan at this moment, is to visit the site this weekend sometime.

What I'd like to do, is find an 'expert' resource on this machine, so our field contact will have someone to get a pre-departure description of the machine model and it's typical character, so that a basic list of tools is in the truck, and a general plan of what to check out in making the assessment.

Can I get a volunteer or two? Reply, or PM me with contact info, and I'll connect you with my friend.

Hi Dave!

Thanks for jumping in- I sent you a PM to you accordingly.

Several other things that would be nice to know, for someone with no experience (myself included)

First... what's the approximate width, from outer edge of tracks? (to figure out how 'oversize' it would be, if it is). I assume there were different width of tracks available... and also, height to top of the ROPS, basic length without, and with the loader...

Should we ever find ourselves sitting in the seat and not finding a steering wheel... fill me in on the controls. I personally have operated a myriad of different driveline systems on all sorts of heavy machines, some very intuitive, some not so much, but discovered that each machine has it's own 'way'... {Model T Ford...}

Floor, center pedal, says AUTO... is this a combination brake, or a declutching or dethrottling control?

Left and right pedals... clutch/brake for right/left tracks?

U-shaped lever- direction and shift range? If it's in the left gate, vs right gate, I assume that changes from forward to reverse... is it also a range selector where forward or rearward changes speed?

To the left of the U-shaped lever... engine throttle?

To the right of the U-shaped lever, a lever that has an S-shaped pattern... ??

Long lever above left shoulder?

Long lever to right hand- looks like a two-axis... loader lift and curl?

Dashboard, black button- starter?
Dashboard switch- lights?

I don't see a fuel cutoff control anywhere, but I see it on the parts guide...

I know steering is done with brakes on either side, and corresponding clutches, in the center.   All the hydraulic controlls are on the right.   Along with the gear selector.   If I remember right,it has 3or4 forward and 3 back.   Might he,just 3 forward and 2 back.   I honestly cannot remember, But I know the shift lever is it's own thing, kind of underneath and behind all the hydraulics control levers. The throttle is on the far left, along with the switch for power and the start button are on the dash.   I hope I helped, at least a,little.

sorry throttle should be on the right on the dash