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New to me Model D Identify please

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    Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 10:07am
I stumbled onto a Model D, and I'm not sure how to figure out what year engine etc.
I tried searching, but I kept getting rejected for the 3 letter minimum!
Now I can't load photos from my iphone6+!
Too large of a file size...
Pretty lame I can't get any help here!!

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You have to edit the size of your picture to shrink it down. On the left side there should be a serial# stampd on the flange where the engine bolts to the tranny/torque tube.
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If you are referring to a D Grader the serial number would be on a plate riveted to the frame where you climb onto the grader. The number should start with a 'D' followed by 4 numbers. Post these numbers and someone on this site can tell you the year.
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Where can I find info on fluids, capacity and types?
I've already changed the engine oil!
Looking for where you fill, where the levels need to be, what weight of lube for chain boxed and the tranny!
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You haven't said what you have yet. Is it a D grader or a D series tractor?
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Originally posted by MNLonnie MNLonnie wrote:

You haven't said what you have yet. Is it a D grader or a D series tractor?


My apologies, it's a Model D grader
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Any suggestions on a .jpeg size reduced that works well with an iPhone??
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This is no help!
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Grille looks like the '52 D, in norm's construction book. It should have a wd 226 c.i.motor, either that or it could have a 201 from a wc if someone swapped one in.  I'd take some gentle paint remover, to that aluminum tag, and use a scotch brite kitchen pad, and gently brush back the orange paint, to see if the stamped numbers are still there.  Could be that some idiot sandblasted everything away, before that last orange hosing.  There could also be a block number, up above the carb, on top of the block, near the VC gasket surface.
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Grille looks like the '52 D, in norm's construction book. It should have a wd 226 c.i.motor, either that or it could have a 201 from a wc if someone swapped one in.  I'd take some gentle paint remover, to that aluminum tag, and use a scotch brite kitchen pad, and gently brush back the orange paint, to see if the stamped numbers are still there.  Could be that some idiot sandblasted everything away, before that last orange hosing.  There could also be a block number, up above the carb, on top of the block, near the VC gasket surface.

On second viewing pf the pix, it looks like a D special, with the leaning front wheels, power angle, etc.  What size are the tires?Wink
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:


Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Grille looks like the '52 D, in norm's construction book. It should have a wd 226 c.i.motor, either that or it could have a 201 from a wc if someone swapped one in.  I'd take some gentle paint remover, to that aluminum tag, and use a scotch brite kitchen pad, and gently brush back the orange paint, to see if the stamped numbers are still there.  Could be that some idiot sandblasted everything away, before that last orange hosing.  There could also be a block number, up above the carb, on top of the block, near the VC gasket surface.


On second viewing pf the pix, it looks like a D special, with the leaning front wheels, power angle, etc.  What size are the tires?Wink


The tire size is 8.25 20
This has the power circle and yes the tires lean!
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Is there an online manual to these? I'm still needing to know what kind and capacities in the fluids department!
Or is there a way to search on here without the 3 letter block kicking in?
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Looks like you have a real gem there, Turbo Texas. Looks sweet. Unfortunately, I won't be of any assistance to you on it, but be patient, and information will come. Like another said, try removing the paint from that serial number plate, and hopefully the serial number will show up. Traffic is a little slow here on the construction side of the forum, but some knowledgeable people will show up for you with the information that you need. Darrel
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Originally posted by darrel in ND darrel in ND wrote:

Looks like you have a real gem there, Turbo Texas. Looks sweet. Unfortunately, I won't be of any assistance to you on it, but be patient, and information will come. Like another said, try removing the paint from that serial number plate, and hopefully the serial number will show up. Traffic is a little slow here on the construction side of the forum, but some knowledgeable people will show up for you with the information that you need. Darrel


Frustrating that I can't find any info on a simple thing like fluid changes?
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The wheel hubs appear to be (non-D Special) equipment. Grill is the late style grill usually used with the square tube machines.
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Hi.   General information:   I am still having problems with 'sizing'. I hope you can glean some information from this article that will lead to you being able to get the information you require. There are certain items that appear to have been changed, added, or deleted. Example: the power steering was never installed this way by A.C., although they used some Behlen rotation units on some of the steering columns.

Sorry, all my manuals are back at my shop in Ontario; or, I could look up some of the details that you are asking about. We are currently in Florida.      Ross D.
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Originally posted by Ross D. Ross D. wrote:

Hi.   General information:   I am still having problems with 'sizing'. I hope you can glean some information from this article that will lead to you being able to get the information you require. There are certain items that appear to have been changed, added, or deleted. Example: the power steering was never installed this way by A.C., although they used some Behlen rotation units on some of the steering columns.

Sorry, all my manuals are back at my shop in Ontario; or, I could look up some of the details that you are asking about. We are currently in Florida.      Ross D.


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Look for that number, on the head, it may be traceable, and may tell you if its a wd motor.  If so, engine data will be the same as for a wd  tractor engine, as far as specs and capacities.  does it have power blade slide?  If so, it is a d special, to spite what the decal by the seat says...Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Look for that number, on the head, it may be traceable, and may tell you if its a wd motor.  If so, engine data will be the same as for a wd  tractor engine, as far as specs and capacities.  does it have power blade slide?  If so, it is a d special, to spite what the decal by the seat says...Thumbs Up


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Looked at pix, again, no power blade slide, so its just a D...
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I'm not sure what a power slide is?
The engine oil has been changed, with a 10/30 and Lucas oil stabilizer!
Now I'd like to drop the fluids in the transmission, & the two chain boxes!
I would also like to replace all the hydraulic fluid out to new! Just so I know everything's right!
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Hi again.    Serial number location !
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shrink to fit
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Ross D. Ross D. wrote:

Hi again.    Serial number location !
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I posted a photo... someone got carried away with the paint! :(
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Originally posted by Ross D. Ross D. wrote:

Hi again.    Serial number location !
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Originally posted by TurboTexas TurboTexas wrote:

I'm not sure what a power slide is?
The engine oil has been changed, with a 10/30 and Lucas oil stabilizer!
Now I'd like to drop the fluids in the transmission, & the two chain boxes!
I would also like to replace all the hydraulic fluid out to new! Just so I know everything's right!

powerslide  allows you to move the blade about a foot to the left or right, hydraulic-ly...
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Actually I believe it has that option? 5 total hand controls...
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So what kind of oil do I put into the chain boxes?
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Well the AC 45 book says above 32 F SAE 50 engine oil

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I used 90 weight in the D we had.
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