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    Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 8:19pm
...it would have to be Ford red and grey. I have been looking at this tractor for a while, and it just really looks like a sharp machine.
Must be something about the WF with the high clearance. I just like the shape of the tinwork and how it all comes together. Anybody else a fan? Sorry to get off color.
 
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Sharp tractor,  I grew up around Ford tractors,  One neighbor had an Oliver and one had a Farmall,  everyone else used Fords.
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I really like the narrow front version, they look cool and different from the usual low profile wfe Fords.
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I like the 961s and the Golden Jubilee
red and green are nice for christmas, but orange is all year round
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They didnt have the slop-o-shift on that series did they? Thats a sharp tractor.
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Never been a fan of Fords. They seemed to be good tractors though.

The main reason I personally wouldn't buy it is because I'd never hear the end of it from my Ford friends that I've given so much grief to it the past.
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My other colors are Case tan and orange and the other is Fordson blue. anything but JD green and IH red!
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would have to be oliver 55 series
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Originally posted by BennyLumpkin BennyLumpkin wrote:

They didnt have the slop-o-shift on that series did they? Thats a sharp tractor.
Is that something you know about or just a quote that sounds good to say every time you see a ford? If I remember correctly that saying was made up by the manufactures that didn't have any way to get the use of the patents for the closest thing to a automatic transmission on a tractor back in those days. I believe there's still a lot of those tractors pulling thier load in the fields today.
That is a sharp tractor, I would'nt mind having one in the barn.
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I like the tractor Ford stole, Ferguson.

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If you do a little reading into the history of Henry Ford and Harry Ferguson you will find they were very good friends and shared each other's ideas on building tractors.

Nothing was stolen.
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One example is the Ferguson Hitch System.
It was a good idea.
Ford used it on his tractors because they shared.

Now Ford Jr. was another story.
He wanted to keep using it but not advertise who's system it was.
He lost in court.
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If i was gonna buy a different color tractor it would have to be an Oliver i have grown up around them and they always outperformed the deeres and IHs
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id say if  i were to buy another color it would be a 30 series john deere or an old unstyled deere on full round spokes. there has always been a place in my heart fo them
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Jeff maybe it's Ford's version of history you are speaking of?  Ferguson had a different view and I'll leave it at that.
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The above pic is from 2011 NAPA calender , month of November
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Stan did you know that Harry was copying the fordson tractor with his lift on it before he and Ford got together? And here's a little more :

"With the benefit of the most up to date developments in automotive engineering, the Ford design team, along with Ferguson's design team, created the real forerunner of the modern tractor- Ford Ferguson 9N. To speed production use of standard components was encouraged, and apart from the Ferguson Hydraulic System the tractor showed its Ford parentage in the use of an engine which was half a Mercury VS, and transmission and other components common with other contemporary Ford products. The tractor was very much in line with contemporary Ford styling. The engine was machined on the same line as the VS units, an extra shift being put on to cope with the extra production. The hydraulic linkage was pure Ferguson, but the incorporation of a number of almost standard automotive components also used on the Ford cars and trucks speeded development. The beam type front axle was the brainchild of the Ferguson design team ." From Yesterdays Tractor

So I think they Both stole from each Other and both made lots of tractors after they Parted.


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Now Ford Jr. was another story.
He wanted to keep using it but not advertise who's system it was.

Sounds kind of like what Agco is doing today with Massey Ferguson re writing history.
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I'd love to have a 1206 IH.... But I like my olivers too
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I have my Dad's 53 Golden Jubillee and my Grandfather's 52 super c and like them both. The super c is not running but I wil get too that as my next big project. I just like old tractors and do not see any old American tractors that I hate. Ford, IH, and Massey were the common tractors here and AC, Oliver, and JD were less common.
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Originally posted by n5sgo n5sgo wrote:

Originally posted by BennyLumpkin BennyLumpkin wrote:

They didnt have the slop-o-shift on that series did they? Thats a sharp tractor.
Is that something you know about or just a quote that sounds good to say every time you see a ford? If I remember correctly that saying was made up by the manufactures that didn't have any way to get the use of the patents for the closest thing to a automatic transmission on a tractor back in those days. I believe there's still a lot of those tractors pulling thier load in the fields today.
That is a sharp tractor, I would'nt mind having one in the barn.



No it isnt something that sounds good...I didnt like how they worked. Personal opinion. They were a sharp tractor and had alot of good options....thought of picking one up for the wife to run around at shows on because they were small and fairly easy to drive.
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IH and CASE would be my second choice.
John Deere third.

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Originally posted by BennyLumpkin BennyLumpkin wrote:

[QUOTE=n5sgo][QUOTE=BennyLumpkin]No it isnt something that sounds good...I didnt like how they worked. Personal opinion. They were a sharp tractor and had alot of good options....thought of picking one up for the wife to run around at shows on because they were small and fairly easy to drive.
 
I don't know about driving a Commander on the show grounds, might be hard to get around the corners with all those people. You must have some really big stuff.  My Mom never liked driving it because it was to much tractor for her. She liked the smaller ones like the Allis.
Yea I know that a lot of farmers that didn't take care of thier equipment had problems with the Select-o-Shift.  And of course there were probably a few problem tractors out there that had factory flaws.


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My choice would be a Farmall 1568 or 1468
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There was no stealing as far as the tractor goes. I forget his name right off, but the man old Henry made chief engineer on the 9N left Ford in the 50's to go to John Deere told a different story. He left Ford because Henry II wanted the SOS released for production before it was ready. The early SOS has a bad rep because it wasn't ready. A few years down the road they pretty much fixed the problems. Ferguson's only contribution to the N series was the draft sensing 3pt hitch. Ford was responsible for the tractor. I can't say I'd blame Henry II for doing what he did since Ford was loosing money on every N series they were building.
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B26240, you are correct. I simply turned 90 degrees to the right and snapped the pic straight from the wall. Looking forward to getting my 2012 from the guys at Anderson Auto parts soon. There was also a WD-45D in there, but I don't remember what month. My wife tore the pics of the JD-GP and the JD-BO out to put up and annoy me. I think she just likes the green ones 'cause I don't. ; )
 
Aside from that, there is a NF standard clearance over in SC that I have looked over a couple of times. Gentleman still uses it. Told him to let me know if he ever decides to part with it.


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I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me!
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Mine would be Oliver. The guy I bought my place from has a 1655 with less than 1000hrs on it. I got to play on it a little and it was a nice ride. But through wheelin and dealin hay I've just aquired a 930CK case that has a tranny issue but shure runs smooth even has the lanova injection system.
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