If I was gonna buy another color...
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Topic: If I was gonna buy another color...
Posted By: DREAM
Subject: If I was gonna buy another color...
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 8:19pm
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...it would have to be Ford red and grey. I have been looking at this tractor for a while, and it just really looks like a sharp machine.
Must be something about the WF with the high clearance. I just like the shape of the tinwork and how it all comes together. Anybody else a fan? Sorry to get off color.
 ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |
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Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 8:58pm
| Sharp tractor, I grew up around Ford tractors, One neighbor had an Oliver and one had a Farmall, everyone else used Fords. |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 9:57pm
| I really like the narrow front version, they look cool and different from the usual low profile wfe Fords. |
Posted By: jhid
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 10:41pm
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I like the 961s and the Golden Jubilee ------------- red and green are nice for christmas, but orange is all year round http://www.canadianantiquetractor.com/tractorforum/ |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 10:48pm
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They didnt have the slop-o-shift on that series did they? Thats a sharp tractor.
------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 10:53pm
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Never been a fan of Fords. They seemed to be good tractors though. The main reason I personally wouldn't buy it is because I'd never hear the end of it from my Ford friends that I've given so much grief to it the past. |
Posted By: Tom Miller (IA)
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2011 at 11:44pm
| My other colors are Case tan and orange and the other is Fordson blue. anything but JD green and IH red! |
Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 12:18am
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would have to be oliver 55 series ------------- 190XT,D17and 7045 |
Posted By: n5sgo
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 10:01am
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BennyLumpkin wrote:Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 10:16am
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I like the tractor Ford stole, Ferguson. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 10:26am
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If you do a little reading into the history of Henry Ford and Harry Ferguson you will find they were very good friends and shared each other's ideas on building tractors.
Nothing was stolen. ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 10:40am
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One example is the Ferguson Hitch System.
It was a good idea. Ford used it on his tractors because they shared. Now Ford Jr. was another story. He wanted to keep using it but not advertise who's system it was. He lost in court. ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: ACfarmboy24
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 11:36am
| If i was gonna buy a different color tractor it would have to be an Oliver i have grown up around them and they always outperformed the deeres and IHs |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 12:26pm
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id say if i were to buy another color it would be a 30 series john deere or an old unstyled deere on full round spokes. there has always been a place in my heart fo them ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 1:48pm
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Jeff maybe it's Ford's version of history you are speaking of? Ferguson had a different view and I'll leave it at that. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 2:24pm
| The above pic is from 2011 NAPA calender , month of November |
Posted By: n5sgo
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 3:18pm
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Stan did you know that Harry was copying the fordson tractor with his lift on it before he and Ford got together? And here's a little more :
"With the benefit of the most up to date developments in automotive engineering, the Ford design team, along with Ferguson's design team, created the real forerunner of the modern tractor- Ford Ferguson 9N. To speed production use of standard components was encouraged, and apart from the Ferguson Hydraulic System the tractor showed its Ford parentage in the use of an engine which was half a Mercury VS, and transmission and other components common with other contemporary Ford products. The tractor was very much in line with contemporary Ford styling. The engine was machined on the same line as the VS units, an extra shift being put on to cope with the extra production. The hydraulic linkage was pure Ferguson, but the incorporation of a number of almost standard automotive components also used on the Ford cars and trucks speeded development. The beam type front axle was the brainchild of the Ferguson design team ." From Yesterdays Tractor So I think they Both stole from each Other and both made lots of tractors after they Parted.
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Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 4:31pm
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Now Ford Jr. was another story. He wanted to keep using it but not advertise who's system it was. Sounds kind of like what Agco is doing today with Massey Ferguson re writing history. ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: ACFarmer
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 4:46pm
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I'd love to have a 1206 IH.... But I like my olivers too ------------- Making a living farming with and working on Allis Equipment |
Posted By: Dannyhtn
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 10:35pm
| I have my Dad's 53 Golden Jubillee and my Grandfather's 52 super c and like them both. The super c is not running but I wil get too that as my next big project. I just like old tractors and do not see any old American tractors that I hate. Ford, IH, and Massey were the common tractors here and AC, Oliver, and JD were less common. |
Posted By: Brian S(NY)
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 10:54pm
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Id go Minnie mo, ------------- God made man.Sam colt made man equal. |
Posted By: jwal10
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 11:22pm
| Farmall H |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 7:04am
No it isnt something that sounds good...I didnt like how they worked. Personal opinion. They were a sharp tractor and had alot of good options....thought of picking one up for the wife to run around at shows on because they were small and fairly easy to drive. ------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: Josh Day
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 7:05am
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IH and CASE would be my second choice.
John Deere third. |
Posted By: n5sgo
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 8:11am
I don't know about driving a Commander on the show grounds, might be hard to get around the corners with all those people. You must have some really big stuff. My Mom never liked driving it because it was to much tractor for her. She liked the smaller ones like the Allis.
Yea I know that a lot of farmers that didn't take care of thier equipment had problems with the Select-o-Shift. And of course there were probably a few problem tractors out there that had factory flaws.
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Posted By: Dutchboy Johan
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 1:37pm
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My choice would be a Farmall 1568 or 1468 ------------- ---> Better by Design <--- Johan Straver, Almkerk/ Netherlands Allis-Chalmers 190XT Ser.III #26829XTD |
Posted By: WD45
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 5:52pm
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We have my dad's Oliver 550 gas and we purchased an Oliver Super 55 diesel this summer to restore. ------------- Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 6:25pm
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There was no stealing as far as the tractor goes. I forget his name right off, but the man old Henry made chief engineer on the 9N left Ford in the 50's to go to John Deere told a different story. He left Ford because Henry II wanted the SOS released for production before it was ready. The early SOS has a bad rep because it wasn't ready. A few years down the road they pretty much fixed the problems. Ferguson's only contribution to the N series was the draft sensing 3pt hitch. Ford was responsible for the tractor. I can't say I'd blame Henry II for doing what he did since Ford was loosing money on every N series they were building. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 6:28pm
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B26240, you are correct. I simply turned 90 degrees to the right and snapped the pic straight from the wall. Looking forward to getting my 2012 from the guys at Anderson Auto parts soon. There was also a WD-45D in there, but I don't remember what month. My wife tore the pics of the JD-GP and the JD-BO out to put up and annoy me. I think she just likes the green ones 'cause I don't. ; )
Aside from that, there is a NF standard clearance over in SC that I have looked over a couple of times. Gentleman still uses it. Told him to let me know if he ever decides to part with it. ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |
Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 6:46am
| Mine would be Oliver. The guy I bought my place from has a 1655 with less than 1000hrs on it. I got to play on it a little and it was a nice ride. But through wheelin and dealin hay I've just aquired a 930CK case that has a tranny issue but shure runs smooth even has the lanova injection system. |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 9:18am
| I've been thinking of buying another color. It's PO2 instead of PO1. |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 1:12pm
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AC is always first!
Then Farmall.
Then John Deere.
I like the other colors too, but dont care to own any of them.
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