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How would you define "One Owner"???

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I own a 1953 WD that was bought by a man who died shortly after purchasing it new and before he could use it. It was then purchased several years later by another man from the widow. I then bought it from that man after a lifetime of use. It was run hard and put away wet. Still an interesting story and I wish I would have written it all down. It's on the list for restoration some day.
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The only one who lies more than a car (tractor) salesman is an Army recruiter..

Just sayin,

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Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

At any auction it’s BUYER BEWARE!!! If you understand that almost all auctioneers are crooks, you’ll be careful accordingly.

Truer words were ne'er spoken, for the most part.  Caveat emptor is the phrase of the day!!!Wink
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Originally posted by OldSchoolRecovery OldSchoolRecovery wrote:

The only one who lies more than a car (tractor) salesman is an Army recruiter..

Just sayin,

Carl


Ain't that the truth. That reminds me when I was signed up in the delayed entry program for the Army (never did go for personal reasons) and my neighbor signed up at the same time but for the Air Force. He was promised he'd be flying fighter jets, I told him "you have glasses that are at least a quarter inch thick!" so after a few weeks he then talked to my Army recruiter. The Army recruiter, "Sergeant Chesser" from Kentucky, promised him he'd be flying helicopters. He never flew any helicopters but he did end up jumping out of air planes. I was only a year or so younger than the Staff Sergeant so after the rest of the recruits left for home after our monthly meet ups, the Sergeant would fess up a little more to me.
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This type thing, helps a lot. I can only assume that it came from a family that cared about this owner but, I don't know! But, it's a prized possession to me. (note the cost of antifreeze in 1955) This tractor (even though it's a Ford) is exactly as it came from the dealer, with the exception of 14.9's on the original wheels.

I bought this tractor, last April and curiously, there was no mention of one owner by the auctioneer (one of the more reputable in my area) but, there is one auction company, that I would not believe a word they said!!! They scammed me twice and I never went to another auction by them!



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Anti-freeze for $40? Was that coolant or tire ballast? I'm guessing ballast for $40.
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A lot of folks on here, when mentioning a recent acquisition, refer to it as "my new tractor, at least new to me tractor".  I guess that would make them the first owner!LOL  I feel that way about my D14, especially with the amount of fixin I have done on it!
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Originally posted by Lonn Lonn wrote:

Anti-freeze for $40? Was that coolant or tire ballast? I'm guessing ballast for $40.

My guess is that it's for the Engine as, Calcium would be much more likely for the tires.

I was a auto mechanic from 1962 - 1970, I think Ethylene Glycol was a pretty new thing, in though days ('55) and that's why it may have been so expensive. I also remember that it enhanced electrolysis and caused holes in aluminum, that came in contact with the cooling system, especially the timing cover!


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That was certainly a high price ........... must be why my grandpa always drained the water every day in the fall
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A years back i bought a 1974 Noeron 850 cc Mk2 roadster from a fellow i worked with - he bought it new and rode it for about 4,000 miles - on purchasing it I returned it to factory stock - replacing extended forks, seat, front fender, tires, turn signals, - so right now I still concider it one owner / as it is now in same condition it was delivered to dealer in or close to it . ( If I sell it i would state I bought it from origional owner to restore )
 Now if something was bought new and only used by first owner for farming and became a collectors project - might call it used by one owner - 
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  Howdy All,
 If tractors had titles like autos then you would know what ONE OWNER MEANS !!!!


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$40 for engine coolant, billed separately on a new sale, in 1955?  No way.

Just because we commonly call engine coolant "antifreeze" today doesn't mean that's what that invoice meant.  Tires, I can understand.
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Originally posted by HoughMade HoughMade wrote:

$40 for engine coolant, billed separately on a new sale, in 1955?  No way.

Just because we commonly call engine coolant "antifreeze" today doesn't mean that's what that invoice meant.  Tires, I can understand.

There of course no way to know for sure but, alcohol was used a lot for "antifreeze" at and before 1955, maybe they used JD, not the tractor but, Jack Daniels Wink Maybe that was why it cost so much!!!

I was 10 years old, most of 1955, My Dad was born in 1908 and was a mechanic, before me. At 15 years old (1960, I was way into cars by then) I had never heard of Ethylene Glycol but, when I started as a mechanic (1962), it was in the newer cars. I think MOPAR was one of the first to use it, in production cars.

That's why my assumption that if it was Ethylene Glycol, it may have been very expensive.

Another point is that why would a farmer use Ethylene Glycol in tires that could spill in the field and maybe cause problems with crops or animals.

He bought wheel weights, maybe instead of loading the tires and if it where me, I'd op for calcium for the tires for more weight for my buck. I'm sure that calcium would have been cheaper at that time, too.

But, who knows................. Confused
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As long as we're speculatin, it could be windshield washer fluid (methanol) in the tires, that price would sound about right...Wink
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So what if bill of sale  has 2 names on it , and " one owner " means from time it was bought new from dealer .  Then that means from time it was sold from dealer it was not a ONE OWNER PURCHASE LOL 

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Originally posted by frnkeore frnkeore wrote:

Originally posted by HoughMade HoughMade wrote:

$40 for engine coolant, billed separately on a new sale, in 1955?  No way.

Just because we commonly call engine coolant "antifreeze" today doesn't mean that's what that invoice meant.  Tires, I can understand.

There of course no way to know for sure but, alcohol was used a lot for "antifreeze" at and before 1955, maybe they used JD, not the tractor but, Jack Daniels Wink Maybe that was why it cost so much!!!

I was 10 years old, most of 1955, My Dad was born in 1908 and was a mechanic, before me. At 15 years old (1960, I was way into cars by then) I had never heard of Ethylene Glycol but, when I started as a mechanic (1962), it was in the newer cars. I think MOPAR was one of the first to use it, in production cars.

That's why my assumption that if it was Ethylene Glycol, it may have been very expensive.

Another point is that why would a farmer use Ethylene Glycol in tires that could spill in the field and maybe cause problems with crops or animals.

He bought wheel weights, maybe instead of loading the tires and if it where me, I'd op for calcium for the tires for more weight for my buck. I'm sure that calcium would have been cheaper at that time, too.

But, who knows................. Confused

Yeah, who knows.

My only point is that whatever it was "anti-freeze" just means something to keep it from freezing.  It could have been anything to keep something from freezing.  It doesn't mean one specific chemical and that amount says: "tires" to me.

...but of course, it's all speculation.
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Probably regular old anti freeze for one year.  I mean it is for a FORD!!!LOL
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went to look at a truck at a dealer and the salesman must have said it was a one owner truck a dozen times, took it for a test drive looked in the glove box and found a registration card, owned by a coal company....yea, one owner, 50 different drivers, probly never out of 4 wheel drive and beat to death....but one owner....
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