How would you define "One Owner"???

I hope you all can follow this. The events are factual, but I did not include the names of the people and company's involved. I just want to get a good discussion going.

I bought an Allis tractor from a friend. I had no idea how many owners it had previous. I played with it for about a year and consigned it in a local auction. It didn't meet the reserve. After the sale I was contacted by an individual who collects/jockeys tractors and sold it to him. He owned it for about 6 years and put it his collection reduction auction. It sold to a company who jockeys farm equipment and was placed in one of thier consignment sales about two months later. It was then sold to a company who collects/jockeys vintage equipment. It is now for sale by that company, and advertised as a "one-owner" tractor. I attended the two auctions after I sold it and nothing was said about it being a "one-owner" tractor when put on the block. I certainly made no such statement when I sold it.

I get a good chuckle every time I see the ad. To each his own, and it is a free country, but I wonder if passing down a tractor or piece of equipment from auction to auction still constitutes calling something "one owner"? Discuss!

Yes Mack me and my father joke about that to, as a farmer near us was the roughest guy we ever seen, and bought things new over time. But hay that's one owner.
As to what steelwheels story is, that's interesting and sad that auctioneers get away with that.

I don't agree with the auction companies use of the term but it is an auction company!

On the one owner question...if you buy something from the son of the late father that bought it new is it still one owner? How about if the son bought it at the old mans retirement auction...still one owner?

My favorite is when the big-headed auctioneer says "ride and drive, boys"...  WTF does that even mean?

jaybmiller wrote: NO tractor can be called 'one owner'. It was originally owned by the manufacturer. They are the owner. When it's sold, the first buyer is really the second owner. Yeah I'm picking nits..... Now IF an auction house says 'one owner', in print is nice, demand to se the original Bill of Sale.........just don't hold your breath. On the other hand I am in possession of a ONE OWNER, lady driven '67 Mustang. Have the original ownership in front of me here, somewhere.... Jay

Edited by Tbone95 - 05 Jun 2019 at 6:41am

jaybmiller wrote: NO tractor can be called 'one owner'. It was originally owned by the manufacturer. They are the owner. When it's sold, the first buyer is really the second owner. Yeah I'm picking nits..... Now IF an auction house says 'one owner', in print is nice, demand to se the original Bill of Sale.........just don't hold your breath. On the other hand I am in possession of a ONE OWNER, lady driven '67 Mustang. Have the original ownership in front of me here, somewhere.... Jay

tomstractorsandtoys wrote: When something is sold as ride and drive that means if there are engine or trans problems you do not need to pay for the tractor. You can not reject it for things like lights not working or a loose tie rod but if the trans makes noises or slips or jumps out of gear you can let it set. Local auction company sells like that but you have to check them out right away during the sale before they leave the lot. I rejected a tractor for a pto that would not work and have seen several IH's rejected because of bad torques. When bidding on an IH or an Allis I like to make sure they are being sold as ride and drive if nothing is said about the trans before selling it. Tom

That is an excellent explanation. Now is it wrote down anywhere so you can bring it up if someone chirps about you rejecting a tractor? The problem is in most States the auctioneer has the power T change terms right up to sale time.

I think the one owner claim is not real without the new tractor sales slip.

I bought my 7050 from the farmer who bought it new. No paperwork to prove it and he has passed on but my dad had known him since the 1960's. Everyone will just have to take my word on it cause that's the best I can do........... On second thought the dealership he bought it from is still around....... maybe they have the 1974 sale ticket?

I used to like mustard!!!!! Lol

I have four AC tractors that I can document back to the original owner but I don't call any of them "one owner" tractors. I have a 1950 AC B that I bought from the man (a WW II vet) who bought it new and I have the original Bill of Sale. I have a 1953 AC CA that I bought from the original owner. I have a 1957 AC D-14 that I bought from the son (my brother in law) of the original owner (my late father in law) and I have a 1944 AC WC (Old Herc) that I bought from the son of the original owner. Just knowing the history of these tractors is of value to me but I don't see it as adding any monetary value to the tractors. I do like to include the history of each tractor on a sign I place when showing them and I will tell anyone who will listen that they will be sold by my heirs, not me. Bob@allisdowneast

modirt wrote: I think "one owner" is easy enough to understand.......that is the person who bought it new from the dealer. When kids inherit it, that clouds things a bit, but if it is still on the same farm and is doing the same duty for the same family......that is close. Two terms I don't understand.......(but used by every auctioneer on the planet)..... What is a "straight tractor"? What is meant by "it runs out well".......tractor or equipment?