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    Posted: 06 Sep 2023 at 6:42pm
the screw type garage door openers?
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"in general"........

How much weight can my garage door opener handle?
For an automatic garage door, the lift of the weight is subject to the horsepower of the garage door opener. A half of horsepower can lift roughly around 300 pounds. This is the average load of a two-vehicle steel door, and a one horsepower door opener can, without much of a stretch, lift roughly 400 pounds.Nov 30, 2019


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another opinion.......

BELOW ARE THE AVERAGE WEIGHT LIMITS FOR MOST GARAGE DOOR OPENERS.

The numbers are valid for Liftmaster, Chamberlain, Sears, Genie, and Linear garage door openers.

1/2 HP – Garage doors Up to 350 lbs.

3/4 HP – Garage Doors Up to 600 lbs.

1 HP – Garage Doors Up to 750 lbs.

1 HP+ For Garage Doors Over 750 lbs.

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I've installed a few Over-head Garage Door power operators. Per instructions the springs are adjusted to where it does take much to lift the door open. And if the power operator were disconnecded the door would fall closed without slamming. Or because of friction, stay where disconnected. 
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just saw on TV...

it takes just 10 HP to lift the roadways of the London Bridge......
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thanks ya'll. I gotta do something for a man lift to put on my combine. the manufactured ones use the screw type for their lifts. they are over $5000. for one of their lifts. I can't afford that! my combines are not new and i'm sure i'll have to get in and out often during harvest season. tried a step ladder, that didn't work so well. been drawing up plans for several different styles. a couple look kinda crude...but if they work...works for me! any fabricators out there? 
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Dale, maybe consider using a cheap ATV winch. Harbor Freight used to have them under $100.
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Dalel, what if you had a set of wooden steps and hand rail permanent mount to the  ground / side of the shed/ etc... You pull the combine up within 3-4 feet of the top platform, then lower down a gang plank that is hinged to the combine platform , and walk over to the steps ? ......... or it could even be a LONG wheel chair type ramp ??
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another idea would be to build a BOX like an elevator onto the side of the barn.. Use the harbor Freight winch or the garage door opener to move it up and down several feet from the ground up to cab level... pull up next to it and use the gang plank idea to get into the box.




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Neighbors dad has a wrecked shoulder so he couldn't climb the combine ladder. His son is a good fabricator so they made a stairway with handrail along side the combine. Only thing tall people have to watch so you don't hit your head on something. If your going to make an lift you can use a counter weight or gear reduction or a system of pulleys to make it easier to lift.
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thanks ya'll for the ideas, I also am drawing up plans using sliding shed door tracks and wheels, I think the HF winch would work good too as Trucker said, put a pulley on the existing steps at the top. will/can make a platform outta wood to stand on....I hope!
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Dale, I think you're onto something. Garage door track and rollers would make it simple.
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Originally posted by DanWi DanWi wrote:

Neighbors dad has a wrecked shoulder so he couldn't climb the combine ladder. His son is a good fabricator so they made a stairway with handrail along side the combine. Only thing tall people have to watch so you don't hit your head on something. If your going to make an lift you can use a counter weight or gear reduction or a system of pulleys to make it easier to lift.

 There is a company that make them for combine, the guy I help in the fall has one they're petty slick and will swing out when you need to work on thing that is behind them. 


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You need something that goes with the combine because at some point when you are out in the field you will have to get out and get down. Itherwise you are stranded and would need to call someone for help.
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Here are some pictures of the ladder.
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

how strong are the screw type garage door openers?

Well, she used to be pretty strong, but as she's getting older, I have to get out and do it.SmileEmbarrassed
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The springs are adjusted to where the door will pretty much stay where you leave it if it is a manually operated door, so the electric operator does not need to be very strong. 
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Originally posted by Dusty MI Dusty MI wrote:

The springs are adjusted to where the door will pretty much stay where you leave it if it is a manually operated door, so the electric operator does not need to be very strong. 
What I was saying Dusty was;
When I got home, I'd honk the horn and she'd come out and open the garage door and then I'd take her in the house and screw her......
That's the screw type door opener!
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well...I've decided to build my own steps attached to the old steps of the combine. making them out of 2x6's and bolting and screwing it all together. I can pull myself up steps if they are closer together and not as steep. i've got most of the framework done and will start on the steps tomarrow hopefully. it's taking some time as I can't stand upright very long. i'm getting alot of sitting time as i ponder my next moves. had to have a tube put in one from tire and now see that that tire is dry rotted, couldn't tell that until we got the tube aired up! PfffffT! now I guess i'll hafta get a new tire, no one has used ones that size. I tried to get the local welding shop to make me a platform to stand on thus using the winch/barn door tracks, but he's about a year behind on his work! PfffffT!
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Good luck Buddy.  I hope you get it done to your satisfaction and it helps you out.  I wanna see you at Hutch next year!!!!!
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well I got the frame made, sawed a couple steps before it turned dark on me. it's real slow going, trying to hold the boards and drilling for the bolts at the same time...my back doesn't allow me to stand but a couple of minutes at a time. sposed to rain here this week, still gotta tip the corn head on it's back so I can see what I gotta fix on that. maybe i'll put a tarp over it and still work on it while it's raining. also sucked trying to measure the wood since the machine is sitting on uneven ground. it'll be good enough for me! my corn isn't  quite ready yet. bought a new fuel gauge for the tractors and combine today...a wood dowl! lol 
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oh...I got the man lift info in the mail yesterday, requested it Sept 7th. looking at the pics, looks like they use a tube with the screw inside, powered by a motor that looks exactly like an electric jack on a camper. appears pretty simple, and wonder how they come up with a $5000 price tag! 
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

and wonder how they come up with a $5000 price tag! 

In this sue happy society probably part of the price is for some type of insurance in case somebody sues them. I am sure somewhere out there, even though the lift says "250 lb max cap." a 350 lb person will try using it, get hurt when it fails, and blame the company. 

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how ???

cause PT Barnum was right !!!!
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gots one more step to make and i'll be done with the new steps, ran outta bolts and brackets to finish. sposed to rain tonight. 
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the new steps is all done and it works GREAT! I can climb up to the cab and back down alot easier now. been trying to clean 8 years of grunge off the windows, has taken 2 rolls of paper towels so far! funny thing...there was a can of foamy glass cleaner in the cab...and it still works! didn't lose it's pressure inside the can, but the fire exquingisher has lost it's pressure! Wally World has the big ones, hopefully won't hafta use one!. a delivery driver that brought my new to me 6 row head thought the steps were awesum and he tried them out...smiled all the back to his truck. I sprayed all the wood with water repellant, and it's made so I can change the steps over to my other combine 
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

I sprayed all the wood with water repellant

Word of caution, water repellent on wood can cause the rain/dew to bead up and make the wood slippery if this is what the steps are made out of. Maybe some spray adhesive with grit/sand thrown on or some no slip strips attached to the steps?
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Originally posted by iowallis iowallis wrote:

Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

I sprayed all the wood with water repellant

Word of caution, water repellent on wood can cause the rain/dew to bead up and make the wood slippery if this is what the steps are made out of. Maybe some spray adhesive with grit/sand thrown on or some no slip strips attached to the steps?
I agree!!  Even paint and then put a bunch of sand on top of it or even IN it.  I did some on my trailer some years ago.  I call it hardware cloth..... It's wire that has little squares in it.  1/4" or 1/2".  Just some flat metal to go over the top of the hardware cloth and screw into the wood.
I tried the non slip strips, but they came off about a year later.
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thanks for the reminder on the slippery steps...I have some of them non-slip things (I think what Ted is talking about) that is taking up room in my tool box, just as well use them. i'm real slow at walking up the steps, i'm sure if I slip & fall...it won't be very slow! now I gotta figger out steps for the back of the combine. tried clamping 2x4's on the rebar they used for steps...that didn't work! can't hang a step ladder back there, will gits beat to death by the spreaders. any suggestions?
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