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Topic: how strong are....
Posted By: shameless dude
Subject: how strong are....
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2023 at 6:42pm
| the screw type garage door openers? |
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2023 at 7:40pm
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"in general"........ How much weight can my garage door opener handle? For an automatic garage door, the lift of the weight is subject to the horsepower of the garage door opener. A half of horsepower can lift roughly around 300 pounds. This is the average load of a two-vehicle steel door, and a one horsepower door opener can, without much of a stretch, lift roughly 400 pounds.Nov 30, 2019 ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2023 at 7:47pm
another opinion.......BELOW ARE THE AVERAGE WEIGHT LIMITS FOR MOST GARAGE DOOR OPENERS.The numbers are valid for Liftmaster, Chamberlain, Sears, Genie, and Linear garage door openers. 1/2 HP – Garage doors Up to 350 lbs. 3/4 HP – Garage Doors Up to 600 lbs. 1 HP – Garage Doors Up to 750 lbs. 1 HP+ For Garage Doors Over 750 lbs. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2023 at 8:22pm
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I've installed a few Over-head Garage Door power operators. Per instructions the springs are adjusted to where it does take much to lift the door open. And if the power operator were disconnecded the door would fall closed without slamming. Or because of friction, stay where disconnected. ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2023 at 8:34pm
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just saw on TV... it takes just 10 HP to lift the roadways of the London Bridge...... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2023 at 12:13am
| thanks ya'll. I gotta do something for a man lift to put on my combine. the manufactured ones use the screw type for their lifts. they are over $5000. for one of their lifts. I can't afford that! my combines are not new and i'm sure i'll have to get in and out often during harvest season. tried a step ladder, that didn't work so well. been drawing up plans for several different styles. a couple look kinda crude...but if they work...works for me! any fabricators out there? |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2023 at 6:53am
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Dale, maybe consider using a cheap ATV winch. Harbor Freight used to have them under $100. ------------- Looking at the past to see the future. '53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it! |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2023 at 9:15am
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Dalel, what if you had a set of wooden steps and hand rail permanent mount to the ground / side of the shed/ etc... You pull the combine up within 3-4 feet of the top platform, then lower down a gang plank that is hinged to the combine platform , and walk over to the steps ? ......... or it could even be a LONG wheel chair type ramp ?? ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2023 at 9:24am
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another idea would be to build a BOX like an elevator onto the side of the barn.. Use the harbor Freight winch or the garage door opener to move it up and down several feet from the ground up to cab level... pull up next to it and use the gang plank idea to get into the box.
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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2023 at 3:34pm
| Neighbors dad has a wrecked shoulder so he couldn't climb the combine ladder. His son is a good fabricator so they made a stairway with handrail along side the combine. Only thing tall people have to watch so you don't hit your head on something. If your going to make an lift you can use a counter weight or gear reduction or a system of pulleys to make it easier to lift. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2023 at 7:55pm
| thanks ya'll for the ideas, I also am drawing up plans using sliding shed door tracks and wheels, I think the HF winch would work good too as Trucker said, put a pulley on the existing steps at the top. will/can make a platform outta wood to stand on....I hope! |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2023 at 10:18pm
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Dale, I think you're onto something. Garage door track and rollers would make it simple. ------------- Looking at the past to see the future. '53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it! |
Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 4:29am
There is a company that make them for combine, the guy I help in the fall has one they're petty slick and will swing out when you need to work on thing that is behind them. |
DanWi wrote:Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 8:45am
| You need something that goes with the combine because at some point when you are out in the field you will have to get out and get down. Itherwise you are stranded and would need to call someone for help. |
Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 4:33pm
Here are some pictures of the ladder.     |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2023 at 2:02pm
Well, she used to be pretty strong, but as she's getting older, I have to get out and do it.   ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2023 at 3:12pm
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The springs are adjusted to where the door will pretty much stay where you leave it if it is a manually operated door, so the electric operator does not need to be very strong. ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2023 at 4:12am
What I was saying Dusty was; When I got home, I'd honk the horn and she'd come out and open the
garage door and then I'd take her in the house and screw her...... That's the screw type door opener!------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2023 at 7:40am
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Good one Ted! |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2023 at 11:42pm
| well...I've decided to build my own steps attached to the old steps of the combine. making them out of 2x6's and bolting and screwing it all together. I can pull myself up steps if they are closer together and not as steep. i've got most of the framework done and will start on the steps tomarrow hopefully. it's taking some time as I can't stand upright very long. i'm getting alot of sitting time as i ponder my next moves. had to have a tube put in one from tire and now see that that tire is dry rotted, couldn't tell that until we got the tube aired up! PfffffT! now I guess i'll hafta get a new tire, no one has used ones that size. I tried to get the local welding shop to make me a platform to stand on thus using the winch/barn door tracks, but he's about a year behind on his work! PfffffT! |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2023 at 9:36pm
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Good luck Buddy. I hope you get it done to your satisfaction and it helps you out. I wanna see you at Hutch next year!!!!! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2023 at 8:57pm
| well I got the frame made, sawed a couple steps before it turned dark on me. it's real slow going, trying to hold the boards and drilling for the bolts at the same time...my back doesn't allow me to stand but a couple of minutes at a time. sposed to rain here this week, still gotta tip the corn head on it's back so I can see what I gotta fix on that. maybe i'll put a tarp over it and still work on it while it's raining. also sucked trying to measure the wood since the machine is sitting on uneven ground. it'll be good enough for me! my corn isn't quite ready yet. bought a new fuel gauge for the tractors and combine today...a wood dowl! lol |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2023 at 9:01pm
| oh...I got the man lift info in the mail yesterday, requested it Sept 7th. looking at the pics, looks like they use a tube with the screw inside, powered by a motor that looks exactly like an electric jack on a camper. appears pretty simple, and wonder how they come up with a $5000 price tag! |
Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2023 at 5:56am
In this sue happy society probably part of the price is for some type of insurance in case somebody sues them. I am sure somewhere out there, even though the lift says "250 lb max cap." a 350 lb person will try using it, get hurt when it fails, and blame the company. Build something that a fool can use and a fool will find a way to get hurt using it.
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2023 at 6:12am
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how ??? cause PT Barnum was right !!!! ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2023 at 9:30pm
| gots one more step to make and i'll be done with the new steps, ran outta bolts and brackets to finish. sposed to rain tonight. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2023 at 11:32pm
| the new steps is all done and it works GREAT! I can climb up to the cab and back down alot easier now. been trying to clean 8 years of grunge off the windows, has taken 2 rolls of paper towels so far! funny thing...there was a can of foamy glass cleaner in the cab...and it still works! didn't lose it's pressure inside the can, but the fire exquingisher has lost it's pressure! Wally World has the big ones, hopefully won't hafta use one!. a delivery driver that brought my new to me 6 row head thought the steps were awesum and he tried them out...smiled all the back to his truck. I sprayed all the wood with water repellant, and it's made so I can change the steps over to my other combine |
Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2023 at 7:01am
Word of caution, water repellent on wood can cause the rain/dew to bead up and make the wood slippery if this is what the steps are made out of. Maybe some spray adhesive with grit/sand thrown on or some no slip strips attached to the steps?
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2023 at 10:44pm
I tried the non slip strips, but they came off about a year later. ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 1:29am
| thanks for the reminder on the slippery steps...I have some of them non-slip things (I think what Ted is talking about) that is taking up room in my tool box, just as well use them. i'm real slow at walking up the steps, i'm sure if I slip & fall...it won't be very slow! now I gotta figger out steps for the back of the combine. tried clamping 2x4's on the rebar they used for steps...that didn't work! can't hang a step ladder back there, will gits beat to death by the spreaders. any suggestions? |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 6:57pm
Oh the good old days, on a MH2 step over the handrail to the unload auger and your back at the engine. Nothing to it. Any old JD 95 or maybe 105 you have not sicced the scrap man on? The 95 had a nice catwalk from the engine to cab. Oh I think that was a hillside thing,  not on the flatlanders. But consider a catwalk around anyway. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2023 at 7:04pm
| Dads 2MH picker was a real %&$@$*%, it finally met with a blue tool. and my very first combine way back when was a green one...it caught fire one day, was never so happy to see it go! didn't even waste a fire extinqusher on it! |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2023 at 7:12pm
| well I got the cab steps done and they work great, now i'm trying to figger out the rear steps that go to the engine, those steps are farther apart than the others were. and they used rebar for the steps. even when my feet were good and I was alot more limber those steps hurt my feet! A 6 ft ladder is not enough, gotta put a new chain on waaaaaaaaaay up there, so far the chain is still in the box. guess i'll hafta hire somone to put that on too! PffffffT! |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2023 at 11:53pm
| I got that chain on...had to grit my teeth and climb part way up with a step ladder then step and pull myself up the rest of the way...MAN did that hurt! anyways...I got over to where I had to be to hang the chain over the sprokets, there wasn't anywhere to stand to do that and had to partly try to stand/sit 1/2 in the grain tank and then figger out where to put my other leg! finally dangled it down the side of the combine, then after getting the chain on, I had to figger out how to get back off and down. ya'll would have died laughing watching that ordeal! finally got back enough but had to rest laying on my back on top of the engine! whew! I still gotta go back up there and put a new extension cord on the block heater and run it back/hang it on the back of the combine where I can reach it from the ground for hook up to the genny. the other cord gots tangled up in the spreader and tore all to chit!. guess I didn't hang it good nuff! sooooooo...I checked on them extention ladders that slide up and down, they compress down to about 2-1/2 ft and extend up to 14 foot, and has flat steps. (easier on my feet). saw one at the farm store and wally world for $259. HF had the same brand and same ladder for $159. so ya'll know where I went for that! got it home, extended it all out, turned aroung to get a wrench and when I turned back, it was sliding down the side of the combine all by itself to the collapsed position...PfffffT! in all the 30 plus years i've bought anything from HF, this was the first thing I ever had to take back. when I went there today I told them what it was doing, they took it back, no problem. the clerk asked if I wanted a refund or trade? I told her a trade, but before I was gonna leave we were gonna take the new one out of the box and extend it and step on it before I take it home. they brought out a new one and took it outta the box, extended it all the way, and an emp[loyee walked right up it and it held! good nuff for me and I thanked them for doing that. another thing they did was the ladder was on sale this week and the gave me the sale price at $129. and refunded the $30. I paid for the original one! WooHoo! That clerk and Manager were GREAT! They even gave me the "inside tract" membership free for 1 year. that was another $30. that was saved. they throw some really good sales when you belong to that. this ladder should work good to get me up on the back of the combine, it has them flat steps and good sized ones, better on my feet. not much is worse than having your feet and back hurting most all the time. I would like to meet the designer of them steps...both front and back on that combine! Gleaners have lots better steps, even the old ones. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2023 at 4:55pm
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Glad to see you got a GREAT deal you're happy as a clam. (where did that saying come from?) I really worry about you buddy!! Glad to hear you are doing so well and getting around. I want to see you at Hutch one of these years again!! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |