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hilltop615 
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 Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 8:04pm |
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I was just thinking, what holds the brass collar to the rear of the clutch hub?
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D-17_Dave
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 9:07pm |
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The brass collar has a groove cut into it that rides the hub that engages the clutch pack. If you look at the picture, you can just make out that the brass sleeve is in fact 2 half sections bolted together. If you take your time with the help of the manual you may be able to remove the brass collar and see the total damage. If it's just the collar you may be able to replace this without splitting the tractor. You may have to remove the cross shaft that holds the fork in place. This can be done on the tractor, but I'm not sureit can be done on a crawler with the track frame out board of the transmision. Others may chime in if I'm incorrect. All this is much easier to see on the ag tractors.
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Yea, I can fix that.....
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hilltop615
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Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 10:16pm |
The manual i bought is not much so i'm not much better off than i was without unfortunately. I see what your saying about the groove, i think i'm seeing through that hole beside one of the bolts. I might could replace the collar in the machine as long as i could get a wrench on everything but that still leaves that shaft in really bad shape. I will take another look at it before going any further on splitting it though. As for the tracks being in the way i will say that a man sure looks funny with his head stuck through the undercarriage! If anyone else has anything to add bring it on. Especially about the track adjusters being stuck. Thanks Dave
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ac-mike
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Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 7:53am |
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Usually it takes a good wrench or pipe wrench, a long cheater bar and heat (lots of it) and some patients. I am almost finished restoring an HD-3 using 2 to make 1. I should have the parts you need. I would say when this tractor was built they started with the clutch pack and built the tractor around it!!!
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hilltop615
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Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 8:45am |
ac-mike, I've just not had much time to work on it because of work travel the last few weeks but i have noticed the common ingredient in every ones suggestion is liberal amounts of heat! Also i think your right about building the machine around the shuttle clutch, It's right in the middle and has stuff bolted to the top, bottom, sides and both end so i think it is fair to assume it a starting point.. You said you probably have the parts i need, I can tell from what i can see through the inspection cover that i will at least need the 1-rear clutch pack housing with the tail shaft 2- brass bushing that slides on the tail shaft, and probably any clips, bushings and bearing that are connected to that area. If the price is right i would just buy the whole shuttle clutch pack assembly from you. I see your in Kentucky so your most likely within driving distance of me. Let me know what you are asking for related parts and i'll get back to you on it. Thanks, Luke
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fglass
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Posted: 17 Feb 2012 at 8:46pm |
Just wondering how you made out with this. Some mechanics that I know have changed out that clutch sleeve without spliting the case (on D 15 shuttle clutch tractors) and your inspection cover is similar, so I'm guessing it's possible to do (with some newly invented words). Just curious if you wound up splitting it?
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hilltop615
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Posted: 17 Feb 2012 at 9:25pm |
Fglass, I just got back from looking at some parts machines today and i think i'm going to pick them up. As for splitting the machine, i'm guessing it's easier to get at the inspection cover on the tractor but reach through the undercarriage is pretty tough. I'm sure someone really familiar with what they were feeling around on could make it happen but i don't think i could do it. Plus i can't really tell what all is broken in there so i would just be hoping i was getting everything without actually getting the clutch pack completely out. I've been working out of town for most of the last month so i've not had any time to put into it. Hopefully i can get these parts machine and some time soon.
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nzer
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Posted: 20 Feb 2016 at 12:07am |
i have had the same trouble i found that shuttle clutch contol had the ridge worn off common on this model part number 1003771-1 if you remove the side oil cooling plate to the shuttle clutch you will see that the fork is not pulling the clutch into reverse but will push into forward.If you search the part you will see how it has worn.sad news if it is this you have to split the tractor in half cheers duncan
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