Gleaner Super 7??

I agree, don't be run off, keep us updated on what is going on

GS7, Thank You for joining us. It means a lot that someone in your position is willing to take time out of their busy schedule to visit with us.

I dont remember anybody, specially me knocking you GS7, my question was where is the new and improved, and where is the proof. We are suppose to take Agco, or your word for it? Lets see if I buy a new Gleaner, and run the financing through Agco financial, do you take my word for it that I am solvent??? Hardley, so what, would you expect us the farmers in America to just take a marketing guys word that the new super 7 is "the " machine. When I was selling the Allis Chlamers line the company front men told us the 8000 , 6000, conventinal combine and the 4W305 was to stay in production, so thats what we told our customers, I even have the landhandler that Duetz put out that said the 8000 etc was to remain in production, lo and behold the 6,8 4W and Conv combines all scrapped, than you have can have your choice of engine either a Duetz air cooled or none, so the Allis Chlamers, and Gleaner market died right at that moment. Than they come with the White built with a Duetz air cooled engine shoe horned in and a hood you could land a B52 on, that we were told we specailly built to Duetz specs where much better built than the white and cost 15,000 more, and because DA was so loyal to the Allis Chlamers men they would paint them in lime green only. When the sales people and dealers complained we got the same exact responce that you are giving us on this site now, we should support the change, it was in our best interest, that if we did not we werent truely AC men, and we all know how that turned out. Now lets fast forward to the last 6 months, you kill the orange tractor, ignoring the AC men, and there loyality,  and the press release says its only the hobby farmers and the old AC collectors that are up set, not the buying public, and we are suppose to believe that the Gleaner line will remain, because you tell us so, hmmmmmmmm???? And lets see watched the new S7 vid again and the old AC stuff that your telling us is great, which I agree, but than again it was Allis Chlamers that brought it to life not agco, the vid tells us about how much superior the transverse natural flow rotor is over the other makes and the axial rotor, but wait isnt the massey an axial rotor and the A series Gleaner??? So to  believe the company thats telling us about the superior line, does that mean your fooling us about the Masseys Axial?Which is it? ISnt it true that in the US Agcos market cannot compete with the big 2 in JD and CNH but gloablly because Massey is a strong seller against the New Holland line that is the real reason the Massey is the line your betting on. Where was Masseys strong hold in the US market???? It wasnt, it had a canadian market and European, Asia etc. And why dont you come clean that the Challenger line is betting on the ego of the CAT buyer to believe its a contender aginst JD like in the construction field, so to try and catch the high end buyer in the US market ,marketing will fool him into the Challenger, the over seas market will buy the Massey like they always did, and that left no place for the orange tractor. When exactly did Agco JD or CNH start to worry about the customers best interest, the only interest your looking out for is the stock holders and yours, and any changes are marketed as best for the customer. YOu have to make money, I have to make money, thats the way it works and I understand that, but a companys short term gains are long term losers, there was a time when the Gleaners where the flagship combine to own, here in WIsconsin any body that was serious had a gleaner the dealership I worked at was selling almost 100 new and used Gleaners through out Wis, now that same dealer sells less than 10. The death of the conv, the air cooler rotor the ramming it down the American farmers throat as best for him destroyed Gleaners reputation, and strong sales, and the arogance of DA and it looks like agcos is what killed it, my opinion is if you want to get gleaner back as a contender Agco is going to have to think LONG term and prove to the buyers that the Gleaner can compete, in deeds and not words, or marketing companys BS lines.Dont be so offended because we dont believe you or take it personally, but the company your representing has been less than straight forward with US the American Farmer and loyality Respect and reputation is earned not bought, thats why Allis Chalmers was so revered world wide in all its endeavors not just ag, and you have to remember the guys that were buying machinery back in the day when AC was around are use to a company telling us what was real, backing it with there reputation, and proving it in the field. If Allis Chalmers said it, it was real, and since than the line has been less than honest about its equipment and actions.

GS7.. I have a question for you .. i am from S W Wisconsin .. back in the day  we had  4 AC dealerships  within 30 minutes of our farm ..

Now we have none . Nearest AGCO dealer is at Durand  ILL . OR Platteville Wis . both over an hour away .. yet NH , CASE IH and JD  are all over . how do you deal with that ?  

Glad to have you here GS7.Even though we have an agco dealer within 15 mile of us they sor some reason decided not to stock parts. So we hve to go to Northstar, Oh ( 40 miles away) and they are a great dealer. No new combine soon(still using the old L3) but excited to see it.
Ryan