Gleaner Super 7??
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Topic: Gleaner Super 7??
Posted By: Kcgrain
Subject: Gleaner Super 7??
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 11:10am
| Here is an observation, anybody following the progress of the super 7 Gleaner the "new state of the art" combine by Agco? I just got emailed the latest youtube vid, that is suppose to be comparing the new super 7 to the JD combine, but I see no comparison, the only thing I see is the remarkable engineering that Allis Chlamers had put into the combine 30 years prior, and being touted as something new from agco. Does the marketing department at agco really think that anybody viewing that vid is just going to take there word for it that the super 7 is better, where is the proof and where is the change from the Allis Chalmers design that made that combine what it is? What am I missing here? |
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Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 5:00pm
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No. We don't expect you to just take our word for it. That's why we had farmers and custom harvesters tell you in their own words. No one is slighting AC. In fact, if you watch the video you'll see us give a shout out to the original design. Also, the design is a good one which is why we continue to stick with it. I don't really understand your argument. You're saying the original design is "remarkable" (and I agree) but then you want to know why we won't change it. |
Posted By: gleaner1
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 5:29pm
| I do have one question for you GS7, Are there any original Gleaner employees left working at Agco? (employees that may have transferred from the Independence plant when it was shut down a few years back). |
Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 5:33pm
| Yes. And some of them are on the team that created the Super 7. Kevin Bien, who is shown in episode 1, is also originally from AC. |
Posted By: farmtoybuilder
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 5:57pm
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I agree it's an impressive combine!! But I don't see Agco's sales of it increasing much. Green one will still be number 1 combine, due to parts availability, service And Large number of dealers! Not an Agco dealer within a hundred miles or more here selling combines! In our area you can count red,yellow and silver on one hand, 2 at most! All are green. And resale value is another plus for green or red one. Our family bleed's orange (older AC Tractors and equipment and we use to sell AC) But we run & farm with green tractors and combines today. ------------- 5 different TT-10's,5 TT-18's Terra Tigers,B-10,2 B-207's,B-110,2 B-112's,HB-112,B-210,B-212,HB212,2 Scamp's & Homilite T-10. Still hunting NICE HB-112 & anything Terra Tiger & Trailers for them. |
Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 6:17pm
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I think there is a common misconception that because there is not a nearby dealer where you farm that there is no nearby dealers where anyone farms. Obviously, this is not true. We have some great dealers in plenty of farming areas. Do we want more? Of course. I wish we had a dealer near you and perhaps one day we will. We're not out to convince every Green combine owner to switch to a Gleaner. But we know that there are people that are not pleased with their Green or Red combine. We're giving them an option and now that option comes with plenty more capacity. Gleaner has always been more akin to a club than a mass following. While I think we'll steadily sell more combines, I don't expect we'll change much from being that club. |
Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 6:54pm
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Could someone post a pic of the new machine ? ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 7:14pm
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Also, there is a certain amount of secrecy to maintain. The dealers, the people that need to know all the ins and outs of this machine, really need to be introduced first. They really should have a head start on the customers so they will have half a chance at answering questions. We will have a good look at the machine at the farm shows, and they (the shows) really aren't all that far off now. I think the marketing department is doing a good job with this. They got our attention, didn't they? ------------- If it weren't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done! |
Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 7:42pm
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so will this be ready for this falls shows ? ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 7:55pm
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Yes. It will be at the farm shows. You can see photos, watch videos and get links to other discussions at www.gleanersuper7.com |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 9:18pm
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How long before they drop the Gleaner name, paint it red and call it a Massey? ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: Kcgrain
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 9:32pm
| My argument with your video is this, so you have a gleaner man "telling me" it got a great sample and capacity, and in the last video you sent me the heading is its competing with a Deere, I didnt see the deeres sample the deeres grain loss, didnt see the capacity of the 2 running ,just a gleaner custom operator telling me what a great machine the new super 7 is, which may very well be, and I know your trying to keep some of the super seven secrets under wraps, but where is the new and improved upon AC design, more HP and more bin capacity isnt a new design. I use to sell gleaner combines actually sold the very last L3 on the market, back in the day Allis Chlamers had the college of knowledge going when it came to combines, first we were schooled and than our customers came to the field where the L3 the N6 and a JD 7720 and a IH 1660 would run the fields with weigh wagons pass for pass acre for acre loss recorded, buchels weighed over and over again so there were no doubts as to who had the superiour machine, anyone could drive them anyone could adjust them and everyone could see what the difference was, how does your video do anything but tell us the Super 7 is a great machine? Is that operator even a custom owner or a paid employee of agco? does he know what makes the super 7 great or just telling us what you told him to say? And even after watching it again I cannot see what is new from "agco" that Allis Chlamers had not already done, the balanced machine the straight thru processing, the high capacity to weight, the easier hauling, the accellerator rolls, all that is explained in the AC brochures from the original N5 . Why isnt the combine up at PAMI for the independent testing, and if your going to compete on capacity why dont you guys get away from rating a class of combine on hp and grain tank size, and if your going to run against the biggest hog on the market it better be able to go toe to toe with the New Holland 9090 in MPH,TPH, and MOG, than we have a basis to go by. I dont sell combines any more I buy them, and I have had a belly full of marketing mens BS there product into my yard, only to find out its half the product they claimed. I started with a Gleaner L2 sold that and bought a John Deere, one because Duetz had destroyed Gleaners market, and 2 I was sold a bill of goods on the John Deere, not once but 4 times, than bought a New Holland, which we ran to 11,000 hrs it was time to trade or upgrade so I looked back at the Gleaner R72, which was a re cabbed N7, with a Cummins engine, so I bought another New Holland, with no regrets I might ad, even though I bleed Allis Chalmers orange, but Agco isnt Allis Chlamers, and the N7 was a great machine but its dated, not the concept the total design. New Holland knows the Twin Rotors work, but they knew the combine needed a new life the twin rotor remained but the shell changed greatly, thats what the super 7 needs, not black paint, not a bigger bin, not a bigger engine, and a black paint job and decals, thats John Deeres game and its hard for anyone else to play it. |
Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 9:43pm
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I want to know the answer to Allisfreaks's question. I can almost see the dealer letter already "Due to a changing market we need to phase out the GLEANER name and focus on Massey, Challenger, and Fent machines. We know this is hard for your long time GLEANER customers but times are changing. The GLEANER combine will still be available in Massey and Chanllenger models." What's to stop them from doing it? A customers brand loyality? I think not. |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 10:32pm
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KCgrain I am with you on the new combine. I have ran Gleaner ,since riding in an AII with dad to starting in an F , L,L2,R60,R62,R72,R75 and now an A85. They have taken my Orange tractor,traded the Dt220A for a 8245R Deere,its a nice tractor. Its just a matter of time till the Gleaner is gone. If they dont redesign the outside of the combine they are waisting there time. That outside is dated, and looks sells. Everything from the big 3 will perform in the field. But looks mean something in todays market ,unlike 20 years ago when the R72 came out. I bleed orange and silver,but I think those days are over.
IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 6:08am
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I appreciate your perspective but I will not be pestered into releasing data before dealers watch it. If you pay close attention to the video, you'll see that we did collect data in much the same manner as you described. It's great to hear you used to sell Gleaners. Thank you for contributing to this great legacy. If you happened to interact with the development and testing team as AC, you might very well know some of the S7 designers. The changes goes beyond the stuff you can see but I am not revealing them to you until dealers can see them. If you cannot appreciate or trust people that attest to the combines performance then I don't believe we have anything that will change your mind that I'm willing to reveal this early. |
Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 6:26am
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We have received the same commitment from our management as you have. AGCO is committed to the Gleaner Combine. They have invested money in the development of a new product and are releasing that product. There's one thing I don't get. Here's a new machine that preserves what is great about the Gleaner Combine, is part of an effort that is led and developed by AC people, even replaces the cab emblem with the original 1923 Gleaner logo- yet you are the first people to shoot it down sight unseen. No. you don't know the changes we've made. Unlike a lot of people, you have not seen the machine run for yourselves. And when we show operators and let them give their impressions, you suggest they are paid? Really? You bleed silver? So do we. And we're out here trying to bring silver back to the glory it deserves. What exactly are you doing? |
Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 6:52am
| Waiting. and Waiting. To see someone prove what they said this machine is capable of all along. MAYBE then you will gain some respect. Don't get me wrong, I love the new idea and all the grassroots marketing you guys seem to be doing, but I can understand where people like KCGrain are coming from. After all AGCO has run into the ground in the past few years, whats out there to prove that Gleaners not next other then someone saying "its not going to be that way". I'm sure once all your results are released, things will be a little different. Oh, and one other thing. I sell things for a living too. and in this kind of economy everyone is going to think twice if not three times before they buy a product. The customer is always right. Don't make the customers blood pressure go up. Because you might as well kiss them good by if you piss them off. AGCO has already done, so you already have people that are going to be extremely critical of everything you say. Expect that. You can't change that. Just blow them away when its time to release all the data. Win back our support by proving what you can do with this machine. Don't question them in the meantime. |
Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 7:13am
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I'm all for talking to people that are interested in what this new machine can do. That's not what is going on here. What is going on here is a lot of prejudging and complaining. We have an awesome new machine but it's not for everyone. I am not here to convince those that cannot be convinced. The customer is not always right, particularly when they use such a notion to abuse good people. I've kicked people out of the store and I'll question every lie and rumor. I'm proud of this product, it's designers and the brand and I'll defend it against anyone even if they claim to love it. You want to support Gleaner? Have an open mind and at least a shred of patience. Go to a farm show and see it run. Don't claim that people on the video are paid endorsers (they're not). I'm not asking you to fly a Gleaner flag in your front yard but could you at least not be the first one to set it on fire especially since you have not even seen the new combine? |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 7:25am
G,
What we have going on here is a lack of trust and credibility for anything AGCO says or does because of what management has done the last few years. And yes it may be unfair to the Gleaner side of things, but thats the consequences. FWIW I hope your G7 is a smashing success, AGCO mis-management notwithstanding. (Speaking of which, 2nd qtr numbers are out today). All said I agree that one should not knock something before they have all the facts.
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GS7 wrote:Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 7:48am
I'm with YAZ on this one GS7. You are preaching to the wrong crowd here, we've been burned by AGCO the last couple of years and don't want to hear what wonderful things they are doing with future products. Hell, they introduced a new AGCO tractor 7 months ago and then killed it a month later. With the exception of IL Gleaner few of us will ever be in a position to purchase a new machine. AGCO needs to quit worrying about how they are going to get the CNH and JD folks to buy an AGCO product and start focusing on how to restore the confidence of their current or past customers in AGCO. When the marketing folks get off their butts and out into the field they will find out how skeptical their customer base is of anything AGCO is doing and may be doing in the future. No amount of warm fuzzy advertising or glowing testimonials will make up for the skepticism AGCO has generated in the last 24 months.
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Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 8:11am
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You're right. I'm preaching to the wrong crowd here. You don't want to hear wonderful things happening with new products. Nothing we can do will undo your skepticism. I wish we had your support regardless if you ever plan on buying another combine. The Gleaner team values it's loyal even when the feeling is not reciprocated. Your point is clear. Sorry it couldn't be different. |
Posted By: CJohnS MI
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 8:41am
If I were your boss, I'd fire you right after reading that comment. Why? Because you're a quitter. The only thing you have going for any new machinery here is brand loyalty. That's something YOU earn over time. Damage that loyalty and it can be repaired - but LOTS of time to do it. Crops get brought in because of persistence and tenacity. Crops get sold because of market demand. In a world of manufacturing where one product gets sprayed 7 different colors and the decals are switched out - who's kidding who? On second thought, I wouldn't fire you - I'd give you a pay raise - you perfectly fit the Agco corporate philosophy: Quick to kiss, quick to jump in the back seat, and even quicker to jump out when the guy with a fancier car drives by and smiles at ya. pffft |
Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 8:51am
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During all the research for the S7 did anyone bother to check how many guys that buy Gleaner combines also ran AGCO branded tractors or Allis Chalmers? I think you can now deduct all those guys from future sales. Until Gleaner can operate independent of AGCO I think it will be tough sledding.
I know you guys in the Gleaner division didn't decide to kill the AGCO tractor line but you guys are the only ones left standing to take the heat.
I hope S7 is a success. But be prepared to work twice as hard as you have on any other model release to prove it.
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Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 10:06am
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GS7..been watching these conversations .. i wont be buying a new combine anytime soon .. but i will say one thing . i do believe the customer is always right ..( even when they are wrong ) ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: DPrestonOH
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 12:32pm
| We have received the same commitment from our management as you have. AGCO is committed to the Gleaner Combine. They have invested money in the development of a new product and are releasing that product. Therein lies the rub... We ourselves received commitment from AGCO in years past when they needed us. In recent years we found our commitments were one way, from us to them and have been told to change with the times and get over our Orange preference. Which many of us in fact did change... we gritted our teeth, bit the bullet and bought Green and Red... not Massey. |
Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 12:38pm
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I am just as upset about losing the orange AGCO tractor line as anyone is. In fact, I am furious about it, BUT, GS7 didn't do that to us. I personally am excited to see the development of the Super 7 machine, as soon as it turns red and has a Massey decal on it I will be done with them, and it won't be as easy to sell me Gleaner equipment as it once was, but, I am not going to write them off just yet.
I do think it takes a lot of intestinal fortitude for ANYONE representing their company to show up on a public forum like this and be willing to take whatever comes their way. You don't see many other companies' people sticking their necks out like that. The only other exception I am aware of is "The Griz" Morry Taylor from Titan/Goodyear. He has also put his neck on the chopping block on another forum. The fact that we have company representatives interacting with us at all shows that they do care. I just wish we could get the RIGHT people to notice and care. The people that have made the stupid, unpopular decisions are cowering behind people like GS7. The working folks at AGCO are doing their best to pick up the pieces and carry on. We can only hope the corporation can hang together long enough to get some competent management. ------------- If it weren't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done! |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 3:51pm
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G, I don't think these comments are directed at you personally. Most of us are still pissed at Agco for there assinine decision to drop their flagship brand - the Agco orange tractor. Since they turned ther back on the "Allis" part of Allis Gleaner Company it's only logical for us to wonder when they will turn their back on the "Gleaner" part of the Allis Gleaner Company. ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: HaroldOmaha
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 10:04pm
| Hey Gs7! I'am with you, though I will not be in a situation to buy a Gleaner, I am wishing you the best of luck. I am anxious to hear more about this Machine. |
Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 10:08pm
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GS7 I appreciate that you are holding out on what the new advancements are until the dealers can see and learn them. Way too often do we hear about stuff from our customers before we hear them from the company! Jim |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 10:55pm
| about my only hope to ever afford a new combine is if I win the lottery, and if I do, it'll be a gleaner. Hang in there GS7!!! |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 6:32am
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Hang in there GS7. Don't give up on us and you tell your AGCO management Aholes just exactly how we feel. You have to fight not only for the Gleaner line but also for us here. We are you customers whether it be new or used. Even used Gleaners need resale value to sell new Gleaners. So even us that buy the used Gleaners are important. Come back and keep us updated and let AGCO know about how we feel. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 6:52am
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I agree, don't be run off, keep us updated on what is going on ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 10:00am
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Thanks for the encouragement, guys. We need every bit of support we can get. The 2nd prototype (GS7P2 "Stealth") is in Onida, SD for the rest of this week cutting wheat. After that it is coming back to Kansas for our dealer launch. Once we get through launch, several more S7s will be headed out the the field for demos. There will likely be one in Canada and one in ND. Others are making the rounds with dealers while the stealth will head back out to benchmark in corn and beans. Make sure you sign up on the Gleaner site for more info and videos from the field. I'll keep watching this site the best I can to answer any questions you may have. Thank you-GS7 |
Posted By: countryguy828
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 11:56am
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GS7, Thank You for joining us. It means a lot that someone in your position is willing to take time out of their busy schedule to visit with us.
It's a hard task to deal with the public, dis-spelling rumors and mis-information is even harder. Seems to be human nature to want to spread the ugliest and saddest information around.
While I am writing, Big Shout out and Thanks to Steinke Tractor Sales, Eaton Ohio and North Star Hardware & Impl. Co, North Star Ohio.
Thanks,
Dave Mid-West Ohio
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Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 12:52pm
| I'll second that shout out. We had a farmer from Ohio out to see the S7 in Brewster, KS. His dealer is North Star and he only had glowing things to say about them. |
Posted By: Kcgrain
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 7:34pm
| I dont remember anybody, specially me knocking you GS7, my question was where is the new and improved, and where is the proof. We are suppose to take Agco, or your word for it? Lets see if I buy a new Gleaner, and run the financing through Agco financial, do you take my word for it that I am solvent??? Hardley, so what, would you expect us the farmers in America to just take a marketing guys word that the new super 7 is "the " machine. When I was selling the Allis Chlamers line the company front men told us the 8000 , 6000, conventinal combine and the 4W305 was to stay in production, so thats what we told our customers, I even have the landhandler that Duetz put out that said the 8000 etc was to remain in production, lo and behold the 6,8 4W and Conv combines all scrapped, than you have can have your choice of engine either a Duetz air cooled or none, so the Allis Chlamers, and Gleaner market died right at that moment. Than they come with the White built with a Duetz air cooled engine shoe horned in and a hood you could land a B52 on, that we were told we specailly built to Duetz specs where much better built than the white and cost 15,000 more, and because DA was so loyal to the Allis Chlamers men they would paint them in lime green only. When the sales people and dealers complained we got the same exact responce that you are giving us on this site now, we should support the change, it was in our best interest, that if we did not we werent truely AC men, and we all know how that turned out. Now lets fast forward to the last 6 months, you kill the orange tractor, ignoring the AC men, and there loyality, and the press release says its only the hobby farmers and the old AC collectors that are up set, not the buying public, and we are suppose to believe that the Gleaner line will remain, because you tell us so, hmmmmmmmm???? And lets see watched the new S7 vid again and the old AC stuff that your telling us is great, which I agree, but than again it was Allis Chlamers that brought it to life not agco, the vid tells us about how much superior the transverse natural flow rotor is over the other makes and the axial rotor, but wait isnt the massey an axial rotor and the A series Gleaner??? So to believe the company thats telling us about the superior line, does that mean your fooling us about the Masseys Axial?Which is it? ISnt it true that in the US Agcos market cannot compete with the big 2 in JD and CNH but gloablly because Massey is a strong seller against the New Holland line that is the real reason the Massey is the line your betting on. Where was Masseys strong hold in the US market???? It wasnt, it had a canadian market and European, Asia etc. And why dont you come clean that the Challenger line is betting on the ego of the CAT buyer to believe its a contender aginst JD like in the construction field, so to try and catch the high end buyer in the US market ,marketing will fool him into the Challenger, the over seas market will buy the Massey like they always did, and that left no place for the orange tractor. When exactly did Agco JD or CNH start to worry about the customers best interest, the only interest your looking out for is the stock holders and yours, and any changes are marketed as best for the customer. YOu have to make money, I have to make money, thats the way it works and I understand that, but a companys short term gains are long term losers, there was a time when the Gleaners where the flagship combine to own, here in WIsconsin any body that was serious had a gleaner the dealership I worked at was selling almost 100 new and used Gleaners through out Wis, now that same dealer sells less than 10. The death of the conv, the air cooler rotor the ramming it down the American farmers throat as best for him destroyed Gleaners reputation, and strong sales, and the arogance of DA and it looks like agcos is what killed it, my opinion is if you want to get gleaner back as a contender Agco is going to have to think LONG term and prove to the buyers that the Gleaner can compete, in deeds and not words, or marketing companys BS lines.Dont be so offended because we dont believe you or take it personally, but the company your representing has been less than straight forward with US the American Farmer and loyality Respect and reputation is earned not bought, thats why Allis Chalmers was so revered world wide in all its endeavors not just ag, and you have to remember the guys that were buying machinery back in the day when AC was around are use to a company telling us what was real, backing it with there reputation, and proving it in the field. If Allis Chalmers said it, it was real, and since than the line has been less than honest about its equipment and actions. |
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 8:10pm
| I'm glad your on here GS7!! I'm a true AC and Gleaner fan and although I am very pissed about dropping the orange tractors, I will support the last remnents of AC, the Gleaner combine!!! I cant wait to get more info. Its all die hard AC fans can cling to. Ryan |
Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 8:52pm
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GS7.. I have a question for you .. i am from S W Wisconsin .. back in the day we had 4 AC dealerships within 30 minutes of our farm ..
Now we have none . Nearest AGCO dealer is at Durand ILL . OR Platteville Wis . both over an hour away .. yet NH , CASE IH and JD are all over . how do you deal with that ? ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: GS7
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2010 at 12:50pm
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KC grain, I'll keep this brief. I am part of a small team that has worked to develop and sell the Super Seven. I was not at Duetz nor did anyone on my team make the decision to paint tractors lime green. As far as the proof of the combines ability, you'll have to find out the way everyone else does. We are going to let our dealers get the first look. I'm sorry if you don't like that but it's the way it is. I'll make this very simple for you. We have a new product that is built from the original AC design and bares the Gleaner name. It has been designed, built and marketed by people loyal to Gleaner for decades. Pretty much all of your gripes are for things our team has absolutely no control over. You can kick and scream and try to get back at Gleaner but your fits will only hurt people that care about this great brand. As to Michael's question, we'll deal with it initially by selling combines where we have dealerships. In time, I hope we can extend coverage to more areas and serve more farms. No one here can go back and undo the past. The perils of the 1980s happened and AC was hurt in the process. We can talk about the good ole days or we can deal with today. I'm dealing with today. And today I'm going to sell a combine that some great people designed and built. You can join us. I certainly hope you will. |
Posted By: ryan(IN)
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2010 at 5:40pm
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Glad to have you here GS7.Even though we have an agco dealer within 15 mile of us they sor some reason decided not to stock parts. So we hve to go to Northstar, Oh ( 40 miles away) and they are a great dealer. No new combine soon(still using the old L3) but excited to see it.
Ryan ------------- ryan 1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62 |
Posted By: NickT(Ky)
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2010 at 7:13pm
| Thank you GS7. Most of the deere owners around here did it for the resale and availabilty, all of which are valid reasons. They're great for birds and wildlife too (if you know what I mean). We use CIH combines. Did I mention I really do like my Massey tractors. My newest tractor is an AGCO and I have some D series tractors as well. I agree that we can't change the past. If we could, I sure wouldn't start with my tractor. |