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DMiller 
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 Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 5:05pm |
 PaulB wrote:
thendrix wrote:
It takes that much Ford to pull that trailer  |
You betya, the problem is circled right there on the grill.
For the longest time I was a staunch believer that automatics were not for pulling trailers. A few years ago I did the driving out to a pull at Bowling Green Oh. because the fellow with the tractors had injured his sight for a bit and wasn't comfortable doing any night or highway driving. We had an early 2000 something Dodge with the HO 6.7 and factory automatic and I was impressed with the overall performance. The trailer was a 32'dual/tandem with an hydraulic rear tail. The two tractors weighed about 13.000 total. In today's world I would have an automatic, if it was one that was up to the task, not one from 10-20 years ago unless it was a big truck Allison with proper rear end gearing.
For what these new pickups cost these days and all the electronic crap that will give up in a few years an older road tractor is a better buy and much safer for pulling trailers. Tires will last much longer. Brakes last much longer. Manual transmissions don't give up because of high torque engine in front of them, I could go on and on, bottom line,,, What's not to like? I'll never go back to using a P/U for a primary trailer puller. Today's light/medium duty trucks have the power, however when you compare braking they are severely lacking.
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There is a Reason I traded out to the Dead KW I am getting, Be a heck of a toter when running again.
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 2:14pm |
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Yes Shamer just buy a leather seat vehicle and put a seat cover on it of the material you like and problem solved.
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PaulB
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 10:42am |
thendrix wrote:
It takes that much Ford to pull that trailer |
You betya, the problem is circled right there on the grill.
For the longest time I was a staunch believer that automatics were not for pulling trailers. A few years ago I did the driving out to a pull at Bowling Green Oh. because the fellow with the tractors had injured his sight for a bit and wasn't comfortable doing any night or highway driving. We had an early 2000 something Dodge with the HO 6.7 and factory automatic and I was impressed with the overall performance. The trailer was a 32'dual/tandem with an hydraulic rear tail. The two tractors weighed about 13.000 total. In today's world I would have an automatic, if it was one that was up to the task, not one from 10-20 years ago unless it was a big truck Allison with proper rear end gearing.
For what these new pickups cost these days and all the electronic crap that will give up in a few years an older road tractor is a better buy and much safer for pulling trailers. Tires will last much longer. Brakes last much longer. Manual transmissions don't give up because of high torque engine in front of them, I could go on and on, bottom line,,, What's not to like? I'll never go back to using a P/U for a primary trailer puller. Today's light/medium duty trucks have the power, however when you compare braking they are severely lacking.
Here's my dually
Edited by PaulB - 12 Oct 2020 at 1:58pm
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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Ted J
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 10:10am |
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OHOH..........Sugarmaker, you're in trouble now....
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john(MI)
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 9:56am |
If you're like me and live on a dirt road. Then go to the car wash. You can't take a dually thru a drive thru car wash, don't fit. Just something to think about. Friend bought a one ton single wheel mainly because of that, and it has the same power as a dually. He pulls a 35' fifth wheel around behind him, MI the FL and back.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 9:16am |
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Shame, i bought a truck with leather seats... I bought a seat cover made of some canvas type stuff with velcro straps around the back and bottom.. Goes on in about 3 minutes... I take it off every 4 months and throw in the washing machine.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Charlie175
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 9:12am |
New truck shortage is leading to higher prices for used for sure. 2018 was last year for Ram to offer manual.
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thendrix
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 9:07am |
It takes that much Ford to pull that trailer
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 7:04am |
SD, You need one of these! Probably no stick though? Regards, Chris
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 6:58am |
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GM stopped offering a standard transmission in pickups in 2005. Even then the Duramax in a standard was lower horsepower. Get an Allison transmission and you will not be sorry. Have a 10 sp Allison in my new pickup and it is sweet!
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DMiller
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 6:33am |
Going to be a serious issue finding a Stick in less than a ton and half these days, the big del is keeping the engine on torque curve for economy that and those not wanting to have to tear into a clutch as they pull all too heavy loads with them.
Spoke to local dealer over a year ago as to finding ME a newer(not new) truck used not too hard and stick, he noted that nearly all the reasonable manual trans trucks went to the US SW or into the MT or ID areas most not around here as would only find one of two or three hundred used with a stick. Autos are as if not more dependable and less problematic as to finding someone to repair when do go down. Then there are the problem children that buy stick trucks just cause they can and drive them like a NASCAR track racer, hard on everything where when they get done with them become back yard queens being worked on non stop or wrecking yard piece makers.
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 5:52am |
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Probably a 5500
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 5:20am |
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It's probably cheaper to re-tread than buying them 'designer rubbers' you see on 'showboats'. Gotta be better rubber too !!
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shameless dude
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Posted: 11 Oct 2020 at 10:59pm |
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i've been looking for a decent dually pickup for the past few months...o-k...about a year now. anyways seems like most all that have them are keeping them longer. really hard to find a GM or Ram with cloth interior, don't matter if gas or diesel, auto or stick...would prefer a stick tho. anyways...the old lady....oooops....i mean the loving wife and i went for a fall drive today and drove thru a small town that had a used car dealer there. has a 2011 Ram dually 4 dr, 4x4, and that sucker has 22.5 tires on it! whew! not a bad looking truck, then i found it had leather interior and told her i'll pass on it. guess i never seen one with semi tires on one! any of ya'll ever seen that?
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