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jaybmiller 
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 Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 5:18am |
RENT THE CRANE !!! honestly, it's faster and a lot SAFER... you can 'pinch pennies' eleswhere, later. I'd even pay a crew to get the trusses up. Same with the roof. The sooner it's up, the sooner it's 'weather tight'. We all enjoy the 'progress pictures' and don't need to see one of you or crew in hospital with busted arm or leg !!! Jay
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JohnColo
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 10:39pm |
Looks good to me. About those missing boards... Shameless is a lot closer to you then I am, but I seriously doubt if he would be a big enough scoundrel to just take a few boards...
When you come out to Estes, you need to come by, I'm only 30 some miles from there.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 9:03pm |
Folks, Thinking of getting local crane to come in and set the trusses. $400 min charge to set up and for 3 hours. then $135/ hour after that. I think we could get them all set in 3-4 hours. This would allow us to sheet the end trusses with OSB and maybe tyvek them too. Also one end truss needs a window framed. Had the OH door folks here today everything checked out ok. Ready to order doors soon. Eric and I framed in the rough opening for man doors (3) with Pressure treated material. Most of the sheeting is on the walls. Hope things are good in orange land? Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 9:10pm |
Folks, A little cooler today.
More wood for door jams:
South wall sheeted:
Door details, 45 degree at 16 inch corner:
From the road:
Regards, Chris
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plummerscarin
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Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 7:00am |
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Great pics. Your making good progress. Love watching the building project
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 6:31am |
You guys must have made a run? i am a couple boards short on Pressure treated lumber. Another trip to the lumber yard this morning. I have not driven to Colorado yet. But its on the agenda next year. Estes park for son's wedding in June. So keep your materials locked down. Regards,
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 6:00am |
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Looking good. Nice work. Great pics and explanation.
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JohnColo
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Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 1:57am |
Great progress Chris!
Dale, first off, do you know how far it is from Colorado to western PA? A long way! Second, you been saying you don't leave your house except to get more drugs, er medicine, so it seems likely if I came by to pick you up to go on to Chris's, you would probably beg off. And third, at the rate they are getting that building up, the thing will be all finished and all the material gone into it, which is just as well as I would have to load it myself anyway. Besides, there is plenty of "free" lumber around here, just have to know the right time to go pick it up...
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 10:39pm |
Folks, Here are my helpers! Yes they like Orange popsicles the best!
My neighbor coming to my rescue lifting the LVL assemblies into place with his skid steer. Worked very well!
I have 6 inch engineered screws that I will drive in from each side and add some support under the ends on the posts too. Should be able to pull a WD engine under one of these door headers now!
Setting additional girts for the single hung 3 x 4 windows:
My builder rolls in at 4:00 out at 6:00. I have built all window boxes. Need some additional PT for finishing the skirt board area and frames for the man doors. They got 24 feet of this west wall covered in 5/8 osb. Its starting to block out the sun!:) Regards, Chris
Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 28 Jul 2020 at 10:49pm
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 3:35pm |
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if the doors are steel or wood panels, it's 'easy' to cut and add some 1/8 or 1/4 polycarb windows. I WAS going to do that next doo but, well, sold the place, so I've kinda lost interest in that project....
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 2:37pm |
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I put window in all my top panels on my over head doors sure helps light things up
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FloydKS
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 2:33pm |
slow and steady...............wins the race...
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 12:19pm |
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Wish I would have got a window panel for my overhead door. It's to late now just a window panel is more than 1/2 the cost of the complete door. It's was only a few bucks if I would have ordered it initially .
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 6:54am |
Shameless, Jay, Folks, Most of the material is accounted for! On the frost and electric vertical at the building, Nic showed me a PVC sleeve that allows the pipe to move up and down if the conduit would move. Seems like a good solution too.
Getting ready to pull the trigger on overhead doors soon. Not cheap either. Nothing is!
Trying to get it right the first time, so I dont have the woulda, shoulda, coulda, syndrome later!
Last night was much more comfortable. Grabbed a lawn chair set in the shop door and fell asleep for a hour or so! Not used to this cheap physical stuff!:)
Off to rip some lumber and get materials ready to frame in window rough openings. Regards, Chris
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 5:24am |
It sure is NICE to see progress ! happy you dropped in the 1" for phone/cable as NOW is the time to do it. I hate the 'woulda/shoulda/coulda' rant ......we've all done before.
Up here the 'new' way to transition from the pole to the pip is to NOT have an 'elbow'. Instead Ontario Hydro now wants a 'pit' of sand 3' x 4' and they 'G' the service wire, so down the pole,pull a 180, back up a bit then into the piping....The slack in the 'G' is supposed to be for frost heaving..
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shameless dude
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 2:40am |
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i'll bet you are just "wiggl'in" with antisapation! look'in good buddy! oh...and Ted wanted to make sure i asked you if you have a space reserved for the beer fridge? oh...and John, i thinks we are to late to go and borrow some of that lumber Chris has laying around there...what's the matter? Freightliner wouldn't start? sometimes it's hard to get good help nowadays Chris! looks like you gots all the good help there! keep them pics comong!
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 2:10am |
Folks, We move in fits and starts! After helping my neighbor with his garage I decided I wanted more strength in my load bearing walls above the garage doors. 12 foot span had double 2x12's. Probably way over kill but Cooper and I went and got the material to make LVL inserts for each of the three doors in the side walls. Two 14 inch deep LVL's with a 2 x 12 in the center. Will try to slip these up into the pocket and then use engineered screws to secure them and probably put in a jack stud fastened to the post. Had to rebuild the switch on the table saw and added a new Irwin brand 10 inch blade. Will be doing a bunch of ripping to get the interior boards at the windows to match the post thickness of 5-1/8. Squaring up the building next Window and door framing after that, and then some sheeting, May get trusses next Monday. Cooper finishing up his Dad's electrical work:
Here he is doing lay out work for the LVL beam assemblies:
LVL sandwich almost done, more screws required on other side:
Yes this might block out the sun!
The 2x6 at the 3 foot mark will be for my wainscoting transition:
view from the road/ driveway:
Slow and steady:
Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 16 Dec 2020 at 7:36am
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Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 6:01am |
Folks, Update on the shed: Son Eric strapping on the tool belt and helping the old man! He brought me a brand new Craftsman corded 7-1/4 inch circular saw! Awesome! Also loaning me his table saw to rip these 2 x 6's to fit in between the double skirt boards.
2 inch foam insulation is laid in the cavity between the skirt boards. then a 2 x 6.
Should make a stout base. May cap the top someday to finish the inside walls?
Also had stump removal and trenching for the new main 200 amp power disconnect to the new building.
Cut through the corner to have nice sweeping radius in the 3 inch schedule 40 conduit.
24 inch deep trench. Also put in a 1 inch for phone/ cable.
Schedule 80 10 feet up pole:
North wall will mount the main:
Nic, doing what he does best, good electrical work:
Off to help build the neighbors addition and garage today. Thanks for checking on me! Regards, Chris
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Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 5:53am |
Thanks Bob! Folks, So far I have been keeping up with the boys. Ok I follow them around and clean up after them! :) Plan on spending a few hours working on the skirt board or splash board system today. Pressure treated 2 x 10 on either side of the post with foam between at the bottom and then a PT 2 x 6 laid flat on top of the foam. That's the plan will see how that works. Off to get coated deck screws for the assembly. Girts were set with 6D ring shank galvanized nails. Ditch for underground power to go in today, across corner of building then out to the pole. About 130 feet, 18-24 inches deep. 3 inch conduit and a 1 inch conduit going in for powering up and the phone line. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 4:54am |
Thanks for the update Chris. If any of the help gives you flack about you spending too much time at Command Central, remind them, "Rome wasn't built in a day". LOL Seriously, take your time and plenty of breaks especially in the heat. God Bless.
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Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 1:03am |
Thanks guys! That helps. Maybe size does matter and junk does accumulate! Some updates:
Driving those nice engineered screws:
Girts getting set:
Doing what I do best, at command central!
Regards, Chris
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Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 6:06pm |
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After seeing your truck inside I agree with the others. You need to add 25 ft on the north end.
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 1:23pm |
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My original building was 40' X 34' then added a 40' X 24' addition and then added another 20' in length and 10' in width making the whole building 100' X 34' and it was packed till I sold a couple of pieces. this all took place in about a 20 year span
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 1:09pm |
re: All under one roof no lean too's on this one!
I'll give you 2 months..... then we'll hear about the 'new additon'.....
re: Hope I can pack it full! You won't have a problem... ALL your long .lost family and friends will do that for you !!!
cheers Jay
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 11:47am |
Well As you know I am easliy distracted. Had a whole paragraph written went to do somethin came back and it did not like me posting it. Anyway I added a 25 x 25 building as I increased the building twice. Length and width. Ran out of room to go any bigger. All under one roof no lean too's on this one! Also have the 16 x 24 foot storage area up stairs too. Hope I can pack it full! Electrical conduit and main disconnect arrive at noon. Will try to dig for that tomorrow. Thanks for checking on me! Regards, Chris
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Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 8:13am |
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Looking good Chris! Sharp looking truck too.
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Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 5:19am |
Kenny L said what i was thinkin...lol.. though once you add on a couple 'side sheds' and extend the back, it'll almost be big enough....... I'm finding out that bigger isn't always better though.... I got a LOT of 'stuff' to deal with in my downsizing.... oh well...
When you drop conduit in for phone ,leave a rope in to pull high speed cable or if from house, pull both at the same time. Also a CAT5 cable ( good for alarm system and internet). While you may not ever use it...it costs next to nothing NOW to install, PITA later on... one of those woulda,shoulda,coulda things...... Be sure to take LOTS of pictures ,all sides... AND save them on your PC and a flashdrive ! I never backedup a 'photoshoot' and lost 100+ pix off the camera when it 'crashed'.
progress is GREAT !!!
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Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 2:14am |
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Now that the poles are in place and you stand back and look at it you realize that it not as big as you thought it was going to be then you get the hoof and walls cover and that is when you say to yourself I should've went BIGGER I know that what happen when I build mine and think that what everyone says to them self when it build, but knowing you you'll make do with what you've. Thanks for all the pictures
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Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 8:13pm |
Folks, Trial fit.
View from the road: Building is 67 feet off center of road.
Worked a hour or so this evening and got rained out: A few of the top stringers in place.
Grand son was over and he will order the materials to get the 130 feet of 3 inch condiut in place for the main power to come to the building. Also will have condiut for the phone service too. May have that in place by early next week. Working on details like where the walk doors will go. Think I have that noodled out. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 22 Jul 2020 at 5:56am |
It GREAT to see the poles up ! Now you need to have PATIENCE and measure 3-4-10 times at EVERY step to be 100% sure the 'numbers' are bang on. The better they are the better the building. The Shop was built in 1963 and still straight, plumb and true.That 's the shop I used to own...sigh....oh well... Jay
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