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    Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 9:38am

the owner I got my WD from had bypassed the sediment bowl and just put in a fuel shut off valve and a hose to by pass the entire bowl. Can i run OK like this or do i really need to have the bowl hooked up, I know it was leaking he said, so no big deal on buying new one just is there a readon I need to

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The sediment bowl is your fuel filter.  I would recommend hooking it up, other wise dirt, rust, etc can pass into your carburetor and cause issues. 
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Ok I will, I might look at the old one and see why it is leaking and then if not going to work order a new one,, i think he also moved it to the back back of the engine when he did this, does it do no the left on the side of the engine. Not many books to show exactly where things go. He has pretty well just done things to get him by,, instead of really fixing the problems..
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The sediment bowl assembly screws into the fuel outlet of the fuel tank. My experience with leaking is usually due to a poor cork gasket between the glass bowl and the portion above the bowl. New gaskets are available and very cheap. Bob@allisdowneast
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You also have the option of installing an in-line automotive filter in the previous owner's setup.  I've done that as a temporary fix to my B.
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Sometimes the sed bowl assembly is warped if someone tightens the thumb screw at the bottom too much. At that point it's time for a new assembly...new assembly isn't big money if yours needs replacing.
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Dave - had that issue on my Gleaner combine.  If it's not warped bad sometimes you can get by by using bowl two washers stacked up.  Mike
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Or do like the me being frugal, I chucked the casting for the sediment bowl up in the South Bend and used a small boring bar to face it off.
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Also make sure the fine screen is in there !
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I was surprised when I found new sediment bowl/petcock assemblies sold at Farm and Fleet. And they aren't too badly priced, either, if I remember correctly, around $20. So if you have a Farm and Fleet or Fleet Farm near you, check it out.
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Do both.  Put a sediment bowl back on, and put an in-line filter just before the carb.
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Pulling the sediment bowl really IS a good idea if the tank is crusty inside.  Pop the tank off, hit it with a pressure-washer on high-pressure soap, pour in a couple'a handfuls of 14/-20 bolts and roll 'em around for an hour or two (strap it to the tractor wheel and go for a nice long ride)... then suck out the crud with a shop-vac (and about 3' of 1" plastic conduit), then put on a new bowl.

When I put a new bowl on, I always fit it with a slight 'riser' tube on the sediment bowl inlet, about 1/2" up off the bottom, so that remaining debris doesn't plug the sediment bowl inlet... and then, after running a few tankfuls through, I run it down, then pull the sediment bowl again, dump out the crud, let it air out, then pressure-wash/vacuum out the remaining loose crud, and put it back together.  Usually, after the third-go-around, it's perfect inside.

An aside note-  it appears that Farm & Fleet is discontinuing carrying Stanley agricultural mufflers.  Anyone who cares would be wise to exercise voice to the Blain's upper management.
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I had to do the same thing after cracking the sediment bowl late on a Saturday. I did install an inline filter but had no problems. I just left the inline filter on it even after getting a new bowl and it's working fine.
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Yep, belt-and-suspenders is always a good plan.  One thing that an inline will NOT do, that a proper sediment bowl WILL... is trap moisture.  I find quite frequently that my sediment bowls capture substantial moisture, and probably largely due to the amount of ethanol saturation that occurs in high-humidity seasons.  I dump the bowls often.

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I work 7 days off and 7 days on.. so next week iwill be off.. plan to start playing with her then.. have some grader work to do!!
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Originally posted by Sitesstables Sitesstables wrote:

I work 7 days off and 7 days on.. so next week iwill be off.. plan to start playing with her then.. have some grader work to do!!
 
Tractor Supply usually carries sediment bowls.  Last time I checked they were $25.
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Originally posted by Goose Goose wrote:

I was surprised when I found new sediment bowl/petcock assemblies sold at Farm and Fleet. And they aren't too badly priced, either, if I remember correctly, around $20. So if you have a Farm and Fleet or Fleet Farm near you, check it out.
 
 
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I use both, I replaced the sentiment bowl with a new one and also put in a inline filter
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An inline automotive filter tends to work poorly in a gravity system because its too restrictive. Its expecting pressure from a pump to overcome the pressure drop in the filter. They do make gravity in line filters, but they aren't on the hooks at wallyworld unless in the garden department and then the flow is for a 5 hp Briggs, not a WD45.

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