Bypass the sediment bowl
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Topic: Bypass the sediment bowl
Posted By: Sitesstables
Subject: Bypass the sediment bowl
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 9:38am
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the owner I got my WD from had bypassed the sediment bowl and just put in a fuel shut off valve and a hose to by pass the entire bowl. Can i run OK like this or do i really need to have the bowl hooked up, I know it was leaking he said, so no big deal on buying new one just is there a readon I need to |
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Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 9:47am
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The sediment bowl is your fuel filter. I would recommend hooking it up, other wise dirt, rust, etc can pass into your carburetor and cause issues.
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Posted By: Sitesstables
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 9:51am
| Ok I will, I might look at the old one and see why it is leaking and then if not going to work order a new one,, i think he also moved it to the back back of the engine when he did this, does it do no the left on the side of the engine. Not many books to show exactly where things go. He has pretty well just done things to get him by,, instead of really fixing the problems.. |
Posted By: Bob-Maine
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 10:06am
| The sediment bowl assembly screws into the fuel outlet of the fuel tank. My experience with leaking is usually due to a poor cork gasket between the glass bowl and the portion above the bowl. New gaskets are available and very cheap. Bob@allisdowneast |
Posted By: Murph-NC
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 10:09am
| You also have the option of installing an in-line automotive filter in the previous owner's setup. I've done that as a temporary fix to my B. |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 10:14am
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Sometimes the sed bowl assembly is warped if someone tightens the thumb screw at the bottom too much. At that point it's time for a new assembly...new assembly isn't big money if yours needs replacing. ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 12:08pm
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Dave - had that issue on my Gleaner combine. If it's not warped bad sometimes you can get by by using bowl two washers stacked up. Mike
------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 12:30pm
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Or do like the me being frugal, I chucked the casting for the sediment bowl up in the South Bend and used a small boring bar to face it off.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 4:12pm
| Also make sure the fine screen is in there ! |
Posted By: Goose
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 4:33pm
| I was surprised when I found new sediment bowl/petcock assemblies sold at Farm and Fleet. And they aren't too badly priced, either, if I remember correctly, around $20. So if you have a Farm and Fleet or Fleet Farm near you, check it out. |
Posted By: ToddBinNY
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 8:29pm
| Do both. Put a sediment bowl back on, and put an in-line filter just before the carb. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 9:44pm
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Pulling the sediment bowl really IS a good idea if the tank is crusty inside. Pop the tank off, hit it with a pressure-washer on high-pressure soap, pour in a couple'a handfuls of 14/-20 bolts and roll 'em around for an hour or two (strap it to the tractor wheel and go for a nice long ride)... then suck out the crud with a shop-vac (and about 3' of 1" plastic conduit), then put on a new bowl. When I put a new bowl on, I always fit it with a slight 'riser' tube on the sediment bowl inlet, about 1/2" up off the bottom, so that remaining debris doesn't plug the sediment bowl inlet... and then, after running a few tankfuls through, I run it down, then pull the sediment bowl again, dump out the crud, let it air out, then pressure-wash/vacuum out the remaining loose crud, and put it back together. Usually, after the third-go-around, it's perfect inside. An aside note- it appears that Farm & Fleet is discontinuing carrying Stanley agricultural mufflers. Anyone who cares would be wise to exercise voice to the Blain's upper management. |
Posted By: DES
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 11:03pm
| I had to do the same thing after cracking the sediment bowl late on a Saturday. I did install an inline filter but had no problems. I just left the inline filter on it even after getting a new bowl and it's working fine. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2010 at 9:25pm
| Yep, belt-and-suspenders is always a good plan. One thing that an inline will NOT do, that a proper sediment bowl WILL... is trap moisture. I find quite frequently that my sediment bowls capture substantial moisture, and probably largely due to the amount of ethanol saturation that occurs in high-humidity seasons. I dump the bowls often. |
Posted By: Sitesstables
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2010 at 5:49am
| I work 7 days off and 7 days on.. so next week iwill be off.. plan to start playing with her then.. have some grader work to do!! |
Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2010 at 7:23am
Tractor Supply usually carries sediment bowls. Last time I checked they were $25.
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Sitesstables wrote:Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2010 at 7:44am
Just remember if you cant find it at Farm and Fleet you probably dont need it .. ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2010 at 8:05am
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I use both, I replaced the sentiment bowl with a new one and also put in a inline filter ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2010 at 9:09am
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An inline automotive filter tends to work poorly in a gravity system because its too restrictive. Its expecting pressure from a pump to overcome the pressure drop in the filter. They do make gravity in line filters, but they aren't on the hooks at wallyworld unless in the garden department and then the flow is for a 5 hp Briggs, not a WD45. Gerald J. |