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    Posted: 06 Mar 2014 at 11:08pm
Was wondering what kind of fuel you guys with higher compression motors were running and what you have experienced. I have a WD45 with higher compression and thought about changing fuel.
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Until you get over 8 to 1 compression (170-180 psi cranking compression) you don't need anything better than 87 octane. Now, how high are you ??
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10.5 to 1
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  VP fuels are very consistant. I run CHP, its oxygenated, and 107 octane. My compression ratio is close to that.
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And at that ratio (240 psi??), your ignition timing will need to be around 18 to 20 degrees BTDC and not 30 degrees as marked on the flywheel.
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I run e85 and pump gas mixed
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I have checked into ignite 108 it is an ethanol based fuel. I was told it is 90% ethanol. I wasnt really sure about an ethanol because i know ethanol can be real hard on seals and other carb components. I was also told but you can create more power on ethanol but i wasnt sure about that because i dont know alot about ethanol.
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I run 100 aviation gas  
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cotncrzy what are you paying for you VP CHP
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Another question how much would an oxygenated fuel help
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14 dollars per gallon. It seems to help tremendously in these
engines that dont take in air well
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thanks i will check into it. i will probably end up going that route. like i said i checked into ethanol but im just not sold on it in this type of application
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You will like the CHP except for the price, LOL. someone suggested av gas, it should work but we was having detionation problems with it. You have to drain the carb with the CHP fuel.
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i had been running turbo blue but was kinda inconsistant and never knew if i could get it from the local dealer
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what did you have to change to run the oxygenated fuel
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It takes more fuel to maintain a good fuel air mixture.. on the old carb we bored the load jet some to get it rich at idle and still see a tad bit of smoke under full load.
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ok ive got a modified carb so i should be close hopefully
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wi50 set me up a carb that worked perfect. Just opened the load screw... we did this when we increased cid.
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thanks for all your help i appreciate it i will check into the chp
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