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bmartin55 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Feb 2013 Location: OH Points: 97 |
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can someone tell me ..what the size of the out side of the sleeves of a wd is..i have frend wanting to put cummins pistons in my old wd motor ...thanks
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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Don't know what they are but there are 3 different diameters. The shoulder, the main body and the o-ring OD.
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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bmartin55 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Feb 2013 Location: OH Points: 97 |
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would like all measuremets on the out of the sleeve..tks
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wi50 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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4.75" top flange
4.530" top counterbore 4.475" bottom counterbore The barrel or the sleve below the top counterbore that is exposed to the water jacket varies with manufacturer. When I make the overbore sleves to fit in a stock block I shoot for a 4.520" barrel to leave as much material as possiable but allow it to be installed in the block easy. They'll take 4.28" bore easy and probably 4.310 fine depending on piston position at stroke bottom. The bottom counterbore of 4.475" limets the bore size used without block work. Stock sleves have the o-ring grove there. There's a few different o-rings used depending on manufacturer, some use a thinner o-ring for more sleve material there. Most od the aftermarket 4.125 bore sleves will take a 4.185" bore without any issue. |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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bmartin55 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Feb 2013 Location: OH Points: 97 |
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thanks wi50 ...
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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Those little motors with 5 inch factory bore spacing have alot of potential we bore 5.063 and use a 5.065 outside bore sleeve . The head allows you to bore the head bolt holes to 5/8 without hitting water but with that large of bore the water holes have to be pluged as well in the bottom of the head cause the bore gets over into them and you need a flat surface for the fire ring . The head bolt holes being enlarged hellps with relocating the studs so there not into the sleeves as well.
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michaelwis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Wi Points: 8765 |
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DONT mismeasure
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WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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"outside bore sleeve" Been around a shop and machine tools for 40 years and never heard of an outside bore sleeve
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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Ihateillinoisnazis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jan 2013 Location: By The Lake Points: 273 |
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Like spankanomics, but spankalanguage... Outside bore, forged cast rods.. I think we should rename eddies speed shop to eddies stroke and poke. Stroken and pokin the keyboard, it's what we do best, cause we sure dont know how to run a machine. |
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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never hear od outside diameter and id inside diameter. some people just walk in and say hello at machine shops and its evident which ones they are cause they cant do machine work . cause they would have to remove their nose from a dictionary to do any work. Edited by mlpankey - 29 Mar 2013 at 3:06pm |
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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So what is outside bore sleeves? Machinists turn OD's and bore ID's but I suppose if you're backwoods enough, you could bore an OD if that's what you want to do. I have real pictures of some of my machining work. What do you have pictures of besides welding a front pulley to balance the crankshaft? |
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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Rod B ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Peoria Points: 415 |
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Showing off your employers tools? Pic was posted before when you tried to lie about makeing pistons.
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THE-MAN ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: By the lake Points: 156 |
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I remember that, Rod! No, he's taking " orders" for Ross pistons, trying to act like he's a Ross dealer.. It's funny, cause there are too many people who know he's lying about THAT too...People know each other, Pank . People know each other...
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Rod B ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Peoria Points: 415 |
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They sure do know each other and talk about who's full of BS. Like getting Ray to order your parts for you or begging to take pics when someone's machining your block for you.
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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c tucker said he wanted to see something i machined so i replied . it would be nice if some could read.
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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Edited by mlpankey - 29 Mar 2013 at 8:49pm |
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THE-MAN ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: By the lake Points: 156 |
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Musta hit a good nerve. Nice long explanation trying to cover your butt..
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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Edited by mlpankey - 29 Mar 2013 at 9:01pm |
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Rod B ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Peoria Points: 415 |
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$650 for a $500 set of pistons with the wrong size wrist pin with half down. Why if you're selling so many would you want half down? Keep them in stock.
Better order them with a .990" pin so they fit. |
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Ihateillinoisnazis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jan 2013 Location: By The Lake Points: 273 |
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Ihateillinoisnazis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jan 2013 Location: By The Lake Points: 273 |
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No one wants your knowledge, and thank god it's free... It's worthless. |
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THE-MAN ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: By the lake Points: 156 |
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Pank, as I remember, dakins motor blew up or had catastrophic problems.
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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Rod B ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Peoria Points: 415 |
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Wow. Moly 1/16, 1/16 x 3/16 rings in 4.125 bore can be bought for as little as $60 and up for 8 cyl set. That's $8 a hole round here.
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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Edited by mlpankey - 29 Mar 2013 at 9:23pm |
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mlpankey ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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post the supplier for total seal gapless rings at that price rod so your not just talking .
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THE-MAN ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Location: By the lake Points: 156 |
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Burned holes In the pistons or something..
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