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    Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 9:02am
My new project
I can only see HD6E1 of the s/n.
When I bought it I thought it was an HD6B
It has the Buda 344 motor with push button starter
It has a 5 truck bottom
What makes it an E model and not a B model ?

If anyone has a cast iron exhaust manifold from a 6000 motor or a good manifold
from an HD344 let me know what you want for it.

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My thoughts were incorrect, so i removed them. Wink


Edited by CAL(KS) - 14 Aug 2023 at 11:45am
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC Mel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 9:44am
Yes....looks to me like a B model...recessed floorboard....kind of looks like the hydraulic tank is of the right side of the seat....if it has the Lanova style Buda engine....that would be B model. Can you see the serial number on the back of the case...is there something mounted on the back?    more pictures would be helpful.
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For those early HD6 models
B model had 4 track rollers
E model had 5 track rollers
This was only difference in them. After 1961 at s/n 14484 major changes happened to the HD6E and i became a more 'deluxe' model with oil master clutch and wet backend with  power controlled brakes and steering.
The HD6B remained the same basic model with a dry backend. However it could be fitted with an optional oil master clutch and optional 5 roller track frame
HD6EP also came out in 1961 with the same wet backend, and was powershift with torque converter
tits tyres and tracks

they all cost you money
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Thanks It had dry clutches with the Buda motor
I guess it is the 5 roller bottom that makes it an "E"
The project is both steering clutches are frozen
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E was long track , the extra roller and longer truck frame . 
Big difference in machine handling when grading with those extra pads on the ground . Smooth's out the choppy feeling of the short track 
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Originally posted by Dozer987 Dozer987 wrote:

Thanks It had dry clutches with the Buda motor
I guess it is the 5 roller bottom that makes it an "E"
The project is both steering clutches are frozen
  Given that it's the steering clutches that are frozen, and not the steering brakes, ull the clutch packs out, and soak (submerge) them in muriatic acid for 3-4 days. Eats all the rust and allows you to easily separate the discs. Works especially well on mouse pee-epoxy bondage. 
Semper Fi USMC    1958 HD6G, 1959 MF 203 loader, 1960 Case 420B Backhoe, MF 65 Tractor/Loader Diesel
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HD6 Merv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Aug 2023 at 2:47pm
All early HD6 had the fibre friction discs.  After around s/n 14000 they all had the sintered bronze friction discs; these are much better, and rarely stick, slip, or break teeth off.
tits tyres and tracks

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