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    Posted: 13 May 2023 at 7:29pm
I am fixing a mower for my uncle and need to know everything that could be wrong with it
He said engine problems
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC720Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2023 at 7:44pm
Until you start diagnosing what is wrong not sure we can be of help. A lot of things can cause engine issues, once you get it make sure it has fire to the spark plug first. And go from there.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2023 at 4:44am

Start with the basics.

A Gas Engine needs 3 things to run: Fuel - Air - Spark

Like 720 says, make sure it has spark. Then move on.

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https://www.tractordata.com/lawn-tractors/000/1/5/154-allis-chalmers-912.html

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This gentleman Zippo Varga is very knowledgeable about Allis / Simplicity Tractors


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=allis+912+engine



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I need to pull the engine
How do I do that
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2023 at 6:28pm

For the past year you have been on the Forum requesting help with a dismantled Engine in an Allis D-12.

Now your starting another project regarding a Allis Model 912 Engine.

and you ask the simplest of questions !

   How do I remove the engine ?

How the hill do you think you would remove the Engine ?

Unbolt the appropriate bolt, nuts, brackets, wiring, cables etc that are attaching the Engine to the Tractor and then lift it out.

What am I missing here ?

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hunter321

There are many excellent YouTube videos on how to do whatever project on repairing/tuning Garden Tractors.  I have found Zippo Varga to be one of the best, and he seems to specialize in Allis Chalmers and Simplicity(identical to Allis Chalmers - same ownership/manufacturer).  He explains lots of details, and speaks at a level most owners can understand

Here is a link to one of his recent vids.  The second link is his YouTube video library   




Good luck 

PS  he has several videos showing in great detail how to remove trhe engine
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hunter321 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2023 at 1:43pm
I got the engine pulled and the piston disconnected at the bottom but it won't pound out.
Also the flywheel seems to be seized.
So far it needs gaskets possibly piston rings
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hunter321 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2023 at 9:49am
I looked up the mower on tractor data and it said it has a Kohler k301s but I can only find the k301
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2023 at 1:00pm

I believe the S means it has a Factory Starter.

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Ok
So I can find gaskets for the 301
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Ive looked all over for the correct way to wire the coil and can't find it
How do I wire it
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I have power to the points and the positive and negative points on the coil but no spark
Any help Is greatly appreciated
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keyed battery power  to the coil from the coil to points points must open and close and the contacts must be smooth and clean and gapped and condensor needs to be good . most all of the k 301 stuff fits
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I am looking for a cheap head for the k301 any suggestions on where to get one
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The mower suddenly lost spark
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Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the mower
I am not Shure what I am looking for
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