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    Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 5:49pm
from the round bales, silage bags, HM corn bags ?? Where does this massive amount of waste end up ?? Is it recycled ?, burned in a fire pit?, buried in your backlot ??
I'm pretty sure it's the same "crap" that the local marinas use to "shrink wrap" pontoon boats that in theory, DON'T need to be protected from the elements in the first place IMO Embarrassed .
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Grab a bunch of blue plastic stuff, and re-blue your oval...Wink
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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Grab a bunch of blue plastic stuff, and re-blue your oval...Wink
Sadly Mr. dick weed, it's all white pollution "here"ClapClap !!!
Just like the color of the oval in the grill Big smileWink !!


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Well, then wrap your fish...Wink
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Where do YOU think it goes ?  What do YOUR locals do ? ........... that happens EVERYWHERE.
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I cant  wrap  my head around all the waste produced. I think I'm just wasting my time trying.
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i've used some of that stuff for small tarps, when it gets tore up, it goes in my burn barrell. 
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  I don't know much about ag bags, buts it's my understanding they usualy aren't recycleable. Seems like a lot of waste but I don't really have a better idea.
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The one here is only salvageable for the burn pile. Or pay a fee for disposal at the land fill.
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maybe FreeD will go around and collect it freely and put it in a biomass burner... to generate some heat...
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Or maybe recycle into something Viable for Fun as Fishnet Stockings for the Gils he sees/lives around?
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I'll set it out. Let me know when your coming to get it
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Originally posted by JC-WI JC-WI wrote:

maybe FreeD will go around and collect it freely and put it in a biomass burner... to generate some heat...
 
NOPE, I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on as far as silage,hay, HM corn "storage " !!! BUILD/USE a cement silo/grain bin/pole barn to store your product Wink  !!! The new "HOOP BARNS" are the next determinate to the environment  also Angry !!
DAMN DUDE, after reading your post, LEARN SOME GRAMMAR !!!


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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by JC-WI JC-WI wrote:

maybe FreeD will go around and collect it freely and put it in a biomass burner... to generate some heat...
 
NOPE, I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on as far as silage,hay, HM corn "storage " !!! BUILD/USE a cement silo/grain bin/pole barn to store your product Wink  !!! The new "HOOP BARNS" are the next determinate to the environment  also Angry !!
DAMN DUDE, after reading your post, LEARN SOME GRAMMAR !!!

Now don't go bring grandma into this...Wink
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And I suspect he meant Detriment instead of Determining what he meant by Determinant!!!
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Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

And I suspect he meant Detriment instead of Determining what he meant by Determinant!!!

A perplexity, aint it?Wink
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I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on 

So if it was 1981 or 1979 it would be OK ??? 
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on 

So if it was 1981 or 1979 it would be OK ??? 
To my recollection, that was not on the market pre '80's, all of the locals had "permanent" storage of various materials to store crops 
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It would be my guess on any given day the amount of plastic consumed in metropolitan America is 100X the plastic consumed by ag for a entire year!  But I'll give it to ya if we just limit grain and silage bags we can save the planet, just like when you drive a electric pickup with a 8 ft box you'll save the planet, meanwhile the people that aren't ignorant will buy energy for a song.
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Just like he believes in electric cars it would take a lot of electricity to run 100's of tons of feed out of silos that you now see piled in bunkers and covered with plastic and you would have to run those unloaders all day long on some farms to feed the cows. In the upper Midwest revolution plastic brings dumpsters to farms to recycle some of it. From the mid 80s on not many silos built anymore,That was kind of the end of them as farms outgrew them.

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You know fellows this is a perfect example of what's wrong with this world, people that aren't capable at looking at their surroundings will raise a big stink over plastic bags and it would be my guess that some of those bags are biodegradable, yet when they drive by in a vehicle surrounded by plastic, go to work surrounded by plastic, go home surrounded by plastic, the only thing they're worried about is random white plastic bags that will most likely get cleaned up and as they're driving by on roads with ditches full of plastic bottles, bags, and you name it plastic trash etc, they go home to their plastic computer, plastic phone, plastic keyboard and bich that everyone and everything that they know nothing about do it the way they decide, even know they don't have a clue what they're talking about.
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Gassy drinks from a PAPER STRAW.... YEA... he is doing HIS PART ! Clap
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dad never used plastic to cover his cribbed corn piles, he would elevate corn cobs up there and cover the pile. it did work, wasn't any spoiled corn in the piles when we went to shell them. 
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Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by JC-WI JC-WI wrote:

maybe FreeD will go around and collect it freely and put it in a biomass burner... to generate some heat...
 
NOPE, I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on as far as silage,hay, HM corn "storage " !!! BUILD/USE a cement silo/grain bin/pole barn to store your product Wink  !!! The new "HOOP BARNS" are the next determinate to the environment  also Angry !!
DAMN DUDE, after reading your post, LEARN SOME GRAMMAR !!!

Now don't go bring grandma into this...Wink


And I suspect he meant Detriment instead of Determining what he meant by Determinant!!!

 He prolly is still wondering what he himself was refereeing too... maybe a word like 'detoxing'... or possibly 'detriment'? Well sometime he might finally determine what he really wanted to spell.Ermm    LOL
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It'll stay where it lays forever. Have a few pieces show up after discing every year. We covered 250+ 3 & 4 cutting 5'x6' alfalfa bales 1 year in early 1990's, I burnt some, took most to work and put in the dumpster, and a few blew away. Them few are still a pain to me and the renter.
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Often wondered about those ‘bags’, how much money is spent every year, the special equipment needed to fill them, the clean up and disposal every year, vs having a silo that easily should last 50 years….. plus the outside mess of using the bags.
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Neighbors tore down 3 Harvestores and made a blacktop pad to pile silage on. Maintenance on the silos was getting to expensive, new unloading chains only lasted 2 years in the 90ft silos. They are chopping the corn wetter then they could put it in the silos, and are making better feed which makes more milk. They couldn't blow the feed in the silos as fast as they could chop with a 6 row chopper, now they can pull up on the blacktop and unload in a minute. They can fill the feed mixer with a couple loader buckets instead of running a couple unloaders and conveyors. Farming has changed. Bags and a bagger are a little more money but you can get away without a concrete or blacktop pad, but there again it takes a big bagger to keep up with a big chopper. Feed quality would be a little better but more work to feed out also.

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Originally posted by DanWi DanWi wrote:

Neighbors tore down 3 Harvestores and made a blacktop pad to pile silage on. Maintenance on the silos was getting to expensive, new unloading chains only lasted 2 years in the 90ft silos. They are chopping the corn wetter then they could put it in the silos, and are making better feed which makes more milk. They couldn't blow the feed in the silos as fast as they could chop with a 6 row chopper, now they can pull up on the blacktop and unload in a minute. They can fill the feed mixer with a couple loader buckets instead of running a couple unloaders and conveyors. Farming has changed. Bags and a bagger are a little more money but you can get away without a concrete or blacktop pad, but there again it takes a big bagger to keep up with a big chopper. Feed quality would be a little better but more work to feed out also.
 
Are your "neighbors' " using  "vinyl/Poly" to make his BUNKER silage pile ??? 
No need for the plastic on this type of silage Wink !!
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Would disagree with that, depending on certain circumstances.

I fill my bunker relatively late in the year, and it’s gone by May usually. It’s also relatively tall and narrow, so spoilage isn’t too widespread.   I don’t use vinyl.

Wider silos, silos that are fed out all year long, that might sit close to a year before being opened, can benefit from being covered. Less spoilage, better feed quality, and keeps parasites and diseases from bird poop off the feed.

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Covered with plastic and a few thousand tire sidewalls. 14 months of feed in the pile feed from one end one year fill the other end and feed from the other end the next year so new feed has time to ferment.
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