The Vinyl Wrappings .. ?...
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Topic: The Vinyl Wrappings .. ?...
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: The Vinyl Wrappings .. ?...
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 5:49pm
from the round bales, silage bags, HM corn bags ?? Where does this massive amount of waste end up ?? Is it recycled ?, burned in a fire pit?, buried in your backlot ??I'm pretty sure it's the same "crap" that the local marinas use to "shrink wrap" pontoon boats that in theory, DON'T need to be protected from the elements in the first place IMO  .
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 5:52pm
Grab a bunch of blue plastic stuff, and re-blue your oval...
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 6:04pm
DiyDave wrote:
Grab a bunch of blue plastic stuff, and re-blue your oval... |
Sadly Mr. dick weed, it's all white pollution "here"   !!! Just like the color of the oval in the grill   !!
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 7:53pm
Well, then wrap your fish...
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 7:58pm
Where do YOU think it goes ? What do YOUR locals do ? ........... that happens EVERYWHERE.
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Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 9:12pm
I cant wrap my head around all the waste produced. I think I'm just wasting my time trying.
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2022 at 11:56pm
i've used some of that stuff for small tarps, when it gets tore up, it goes in my burn barrell.
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Posted By: Dorix
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 8:49am
I don't know much about ag bags, buts it's my understanding they usualy aren't recycleable. Seems like a lot of waste but I don't really have a better idea.
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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 12:56pm
The one here is only salvageable for the burn pile. Or pay a fee for disposal at the land fill.
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 6:00pm
maybe FreeD will go around and collect it freely and put it in a biomass burner... to generate some heat...
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 6:09pm
Or maybe recycle into something Viable for Fun as Fishnet Stockings for the Gils he sees/lives around?
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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 6:18pm
I'll set it out. Let me know when your coming to get it
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 6:24pm
JC-WI wrote:
maybe FreeD will go around and collect it freely and put it in a biomass burner... to generate some heat...
| NOPE, I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on as far as silage,hay, HM corn "storage " !!! BUILD/USE a cement silo/grain bin/pole barn to store your product  !!! The new "HOOP BARNS" are the next determinate to the environment also  !! DAMN DUDE, after reading your post, LEARN SOME GRAMMAR !!!
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 6:38pm
FREEDGUY wrote:
JC-WI wrote:
maybe FreeD will go around and collect it freely and put it in a biomass burner... to generate some heat...
| NOPE, I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on as far as silage,hay, HM corn "storage " !!! BUILD/USE a cement silo/grain bin/pole barn to store your product  !!! The new "HOOP BARNS" are the next determinate to the environment also  !! DAMN DUDE, after reading your post, LEARN SOME GRAMMAR !!!
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Now don't go bring grandma into this... 
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 6:44pm
And I suspect he meant Detriment instead of Determining what he meant by Determinant!!!
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 6:47pm
DMiller wrote:
And I suspect he meant Detriment instead of Determining what he meant by Determinant!!! |
A perplexity, aint it? 
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 6:51pm
I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on
So if it was 1981 or 1979 it would be OK ???
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 6:57pm
steve(ill) wrote:
I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on
So if it was 1981 or 1979 it would be OK ??? |
To my recollection, that  was not on the market pre '80's, all of the locals had "permanent" storage of various materials to store crops
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Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 9:01pm
It would be my guess on any given day the amount of plastic consumed in metropolitan America is 100X the plastic consumed by ag for a entire year! But I'll give it to ya if we just limit grain and silage bags we can save the planet, just like when you drive a electric pickup with a 8 ft box you'll save the planet, meanwhile the people that aren't ignorant will buy energy for a song.
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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 9:10pm
Just like he believes in electric cars it would take a lot of electricity to run 100's of tons of feed out of silos that you now see piled in bunkers and covered with plastic and you would have to run those unloaders all day long on some farms to feed the cows. In the upper Midwest revolution plastic brings dumpsters to farms to recycle some of it. From the mid 80s on not many silos built anymore,That was kind of the end of them as farms outgrew them.
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Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 9:14pm
You know fellows this is a perfect example of what's wrong with this world, people that aren't capable at looking at their surroundings will raise a big stink over plastic bags and it would be my guess that some of those bags are biodegradable, yet when they drive by in a vehicle surrounded by plastic, go to work surrounded by plastic, go home surrounded by plastic, the only thing they're worried about is random white plastic bags that will most likely get cleaned up and as they're driving by on roads with ditches full of plastic bottles, bags, and you name it plastic trash etc, they go home to their plastic computer, plastic phone, plastic keyboard and bich that everyone and everything that they know nothing about do it the way they decide, even know they don't have a clue what they're talking about.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 9:18pm
Gassy drinks from a PAPER STRAW.... YEA... he is doing HIS PART ! 
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2022 at 10:05pm
dad never used plastic to cover his cribbed corn piles, he would elevate corn cobs up there and cover the pile. it did work, wasn't any spoiled corn in the piles when we went to shell them.
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2022 at 2:37am
DMiller wrote:
DiyDave wrote:
FREEDGUY wrote:
JC-WI wrote:
maybe FreeD will go around and collect it freely and put it in a biomass burner... to generate some heat... | NOPE, I do NOT support the "plastic wrap" ANYTHING from the mid '80's on as far as silage,hay, HM corn "storage " !!! BUILD/USE a cement silo/grain bin/pole barn to store your product  !!! The new "HOOP BARNS" are the next determinate to the environment also  !! DAMN DUDE, after reading your post, LEARN SOME GRAMMAR !!!
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Now don't go bring grandma into this...  |
And I suspect he meant Detriment instead of Determining what he meant by Determinant!!! |
He prolly is still wondering what he himself was refereeing too... maybe a word like 'detoxing'... or possibly 'detriment'? Well sometime he might finally determine what he really wanted to spell. 
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Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2022 at 8:30pm
It'll stay where it lays forever. Have a few pieces show up after discing every year. We covered 250+ 3 & 4 cutting 5'x6' alfalfa bales 1 year in early 1990's, I burnt some, took most to work and put in the dumpster, and a few blew away. Them few are still a pain to me and the renter.
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Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2022 at 8:48pm
Often wondered about those ‘bags’, how much money is spent every year, the special equipment needed to fill them, the clean up and disposal every year, vs having a silo that easily should last 50 years….. plus the outside mess of using the bags.
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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2022 at 10:03pm
Neighbors tore down 3 Harvestores and made a blacktop pad to pile silage on. Maintenance on the silos was getting to expensive, new unloading chains only lasted 2 years in the 90ft silos. They are chopping the corn wetter then they could put it in the silos, and are making better feed which makes more milk. They couldn't blow the feed in the silos as fast as they could chop with a 6 row chopper, now they can pull up on the blacktop and unload in a minute. They can fill the feed mixer with a couple loader buckets instead of running a couple unloaders and conveyors. Farming has changed. Bags and a bagger are a little more money but you can get away without a concrete or blacktop pad, but there again it takes a big bagger to keep up with a big chopper. Feed quality would be a little better but more work to feed out also.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2022 at 8:01pm
DanWi wrote:
Neighbors tore down 3 Harvestores and made a blacktop pad to pile silage on. Maintenance on the silos was getting to expensive, new unloading chains only lasted 2 years in the 90ft silos. They are chopping the corn wetter then they could put it in the silos, and are making better feed which makes more milk. They couldn't blow the feed in the silos as fast as they could chop with a 6 row chopper, now they can pull up on the blacktop and unload in a minute. They can fill the feed mixer with a couple loader buckets instead of running a couple unloaders and conveyors. Farming has changed. Bags and a bagger are a little more money but you can get away without a concrete or blacktop pad, but there again it takes a big bagger to keep up with a big chopper. Feed quality would be a little better but more work to feed out also. | Are your "neighbors' " using "vinyl/Poly" to make his BUNKER silage pile ??? No need for the plastic on this type of silage  !!
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2022 at 7:43am
Would disagree with that, depending on certain circumstances.
I fill my bunker relatively late in the year, and it’s gone by May usually. It’s also relatively tall and narrow, so spoilage isn’t too widespread. I don’t use vinyl.
Wider silos, silos that are fed out all year long, that might sit close to a year before being opened, can benefit from being covered. Less spoilage, better feed quality, and keeps parasites and diseases from bird poop off the feed.
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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2022 at 8:34am
Covered with plastic and a few thousand tire sidewalls. 14 months of feed in the pile feed from one end one year fill the other end and feed from the other end the next year so new feed has time to ferment.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2022 at 11:47am
Yep Dan, like that. My next bunker will be open on both ends to feed like that, if I ever do it. Not 3 sided like mine is now.
Probably go with a bale wrapper instead. Been debating back and forth. Now that I know how much it bothers gassy, that might just be the deciding factor FOR the bale wrapper.
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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2022 at 5:37pm
Bale wrapper for hay so you can keep good and bad hay separate and blend as needed, pile for corn silage.
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