Allis - ahead of their time again

there are so many things that we use everyday that were invented by AC ...........ie rubber tires on tractors...NO-TILL....V BELTS..just to name a few. They were always ahead of there time.

Edited by ctbowles58 - 21 Dec 2014 at 10:18pm

Yes I'd like to see a list of allis firsts. A good portion of my family are john deere supporters, I need some ammo as well

If they really want to test the new hydrogen car for bullet proof hydrogen tanks, they ought to roll it out in chicago...

And of course the worlds first reactive hydraulic traction booster which automatically transferred weight to where it was needed, fully utilizing the power of the engine allowing the tractor to compete advantageously with higher horsepower tractors!!!

Dipstick In wrote: And of course the worlds first reactive hydraulic traction booster which automatically transferred weight to where it was needed, fully utilizing the power of the engine allowing the tractor to compete advantageously with higher horsepower tractors!!!

Edited by Clay - 22 Dec 2014 at 12:19pm

Didn't the 7000 series have the first fuel tanks mounted low, with the fill by the steps? It's industry standard today. Also, how about the waist-high, swing out batteries? Very handy. 

JD was never much of an innovator, but excellent at marketing, dealerships, and generally rugged products that developed a reputation of "quality."  AC usually had some very forward thinking products, but not always the best at projecting that image of quality and durability.  Also didn't upgrade dealerships soon enough, and a few glitches on rugged design (XT rear ends mainly) hurt their image.  But we loved their products from the versatile WC, to the ingenious hydraulic system on the WD series, the hand oil clutch, the snap coupler, the lawnmower type forage cutter (you could sharpen the blades in a few minutes without removing them, and slip in a new shear bar) the round baler, the all crop combine, and on.  The XT 301 turbo diesel was the sweetest thing ever.  But farm equipment was and is a tough business, cyclical, and doesn't always reward the innovator.  It's nice to see Gleaner continue to survive (maybe thrive?) for now at least.  Carl

Roll Shift Front Axle on the 190, it says in a book i got that it was a AC exclusive, but it may not be a first.- Tom 

First rear engine cultivatiing tractor, beat deere to it by a year, I think...

NC Bruce wrote: I believe, Allis Chalmers WC was the first farm tractor to have rubber tires as standard equipment, and the Allis Chalmers WC was first tractor tested on rubber in the Nebraska tractor tests? Is that what ya'll have learned too?

An allis promotional video lists the model U as the first with rubber tires. The video is easy to find on youtube.

Allis Nation wrote: NC Bruce wrote: I believe, Allis Chalmers WC was the first farm tractor to have rubber tires as standard equipment, and the Allis Chalmers WC was first tractor tested on rubber in the Nebraska tractor tests? Is that what ya'll have learned too? An allis promotional video lists the model U as the first with rubber tires. The video is easy to find on youtube.

Standard Equipted . Rubber was available on U not standard until WC came along .Did they even put steel on the WC (other than the war years ). If they did I imagine they did not stay steel for long . If the WC came on steel would they lock out 4th gear some way ?

Just read some more and they sold a lot of WC,s with steel. That would be quite a ride in high gear on steel.No mention of a lock out. May have to get Norms big book out ( the bible ) and do some reading

My Norm Swinford Guide to Allis Chalmers Farm Tractors shows a Model E with " Air Tires " 1930-1936 .Illistation Page 5. A couple pages later Norm claims the 1932 U was first equipted with rubber Guess they were still selling some E's and putting rubber on them After 32

Edited by Pat the Plumber CIL - 28 Dec 2014 at 9:47pm