Allis - ahead of their time again
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Topic: Allis - ahead of their time again
Posted By: GlenninPA
Subject: Allis - ahead of their time again
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2014 at 8:12pm
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Allis pioneered the fuel cell tractor. Toyota thinks they a breaking new ground.. http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-worlds-biggest-car-company-wants-to-get-rid-of-gasoline/ar-BBgVT3A?ocid=mailsignout" rel="nofollow - http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-worlds-biggest-car-company-wants-to-get-rid-of-gasoline/ar-BBgVT3A?ocid=mailsignout ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
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Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2014 at 10:16pm
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there are so many things that we use everyday that were invented by AC ...........ie rubber tires on tractors...NO-TILL....V BELTS..just to name a few. They were always ahead of there time. ------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
Posted By: Dmpaul89
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2014 at 11:00pm
| is there a list anywhere that states all the firsts of AC? id like to have some ammo when talking to my JD buddy |
Posted By: WD45Diesel57
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2014 at 11:24pm
| Yes I'd like to see a list of allis firsts. A good portion of my family are john deere supporters, I need some ammo as well |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 3:27am
| yeah...new Holland thought the same thing in 2012 with their hydrogen type tractor, don't hear much about them now! |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 5:21am
| If they really want to test the new hydrogen car for bullet proof hydrogen tanks, they ought to roll it out in chicago... |
Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 5:38am
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power adjust wheels 1948 WD Turbo-charged engine 1961 D19D I'm sure one of Norm Swinfords book would have many more. ------------- Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives. |
Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 5:44am
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And of course the worlds first reactive hydraulic traction booster which automatically transferred weight to where it was needed, fully utilizing the power of the engine allowing the tractor to compete advantageously with higher horsepower tractors!!! ------------- You don't really have to be smart if you know who is! |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 6:32am
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First load variable hydraulics... I think...with the 7030/7050 ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 12:18pm
My dad did a side by side plowing comparison with an John Deere and Allis Chalmers in 1960. Both tractors were equipped with new 4-16 plows. One Allis and one J.D. The Allis walked off from the John Deere. The difference was the Allis Chalmers Traction Booster. He switched from J.D. to Allis that day.
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Dipstick In wrote:Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 1:40pm
| Console control on the One-Ninety. |
Posted By: GWS
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 5:06pm
| Didn't the 7000 series have the first fuel tanks mounted low, with the fill by the steps? It's industry standard today. Also, how about the waist-high, swing out batteries? Very handy. |
Posted By: WD45
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2014 at 9:44am
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The Gleaner M (1972) and L (1973) series had electro over for hydraulics. Another first for Allis. ------------- Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H |
Posted By: carl
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2014 at 10:25am
| JD was never much of an innovator, but excellent at marketing, dealerships, and generally rugged products that developed a reputation of "quality." AC usually had some very forward thinking products, but not always the best at projecting that image of quality and durability. Also didn't upgrade dealerships soon enough, and a few glitches on rugged design (XT rear ends mainly) hurt their image. But we loved their products from the versatile WC, to the ingenious hydraulic system on the WD series, the hand oil clutch, the snap coupler, the lawnmower type forage cutter (you could sharpen the blades in a few minutes without removing them, and slip in a new shear bar) the round baler, the all crop combine, and on. The XT 301 turbo diesel was the sweetest thing ever. But farm equipment was and is a tough business, cyclical, and doesn't always reward the innovator. It's nice to see Gleaner continue to survive (maybe thrive?) for now at least. Carl |
Posted By: norm[ind]
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2014 at 7:28pm
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allis chalmers quit making 2 cyliders in 1930--tokk deere 30 yrs to figure that out
my 2 cents
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Posted By: Orange4ever
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2014 at 8:25pm
| Roll Shift Front Axle on the 190, it says in a book i got that it was a AC exclusive, but it may not be a first.- Tom |
Posted By: NC Bruce
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2014 at 10:50pm
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I believe, Allis Chalmers WC was the first farm tractor to have rubber tires as standard equipment, and the Allis Chalmers WC was first tractor tested on rubber in the Nebraska tractor tests? Is that what ya'll have learned too? |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2014 at 5:16am
| First rear engine cultivatiing tractor, beat deere to it by a year, I think... |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2014 at 7:04am
| I just wish Allis would have primed and painted fenders and fender supports before assembly. By not protecting these unseen areas before painting the whole tractor they created rust sandwiches. C Allis tractor fenders and supports are the worst. And. Nobody makes reproduction C fenders. |
Posted By: Allis Nation
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2014 at 9:22pm
An allis promotional video lists the model U as the first with rubber tires. The video is easy to find on youtube. |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2014 at 9:31pm
Switch the models side to side, and you got it. The G lasted till 72 and the M replaced it. in 73. L launched in 72. Electro-hydraulics have been an awesome addition to combine control, that is for sure. ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2014 at 9:34pm
Standard Equipted . Rubber was available on U not standard until WC came along .Did they even put steel on the WC (other than the war years ). If they did I imagine they did not stay steel for long . If the WC came on steel would they lock out 4th gear some way ? Just read some more and they sold a lot of WC,s with steel. That would be quite a ride in high gear on steel.No mention of a lock out. May have to get Norms big book out ( the bible ) and do some reading My Norm Swinford Guide to Allis Chalmers Farm Tractors shows a Model E with " Air Tires " 1930-1936 .Illistation Page 5. A couple pages later Norm claims the 1932 U was first equipted with rubber Guess they were still selling some E's and putting rubber on them After 32 ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |