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lets see some wheatland d17 pics~!

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    Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:33pm
here are some i have
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wheat 2
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wheatland 4 my first one~!!
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just like this pic.
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cold trip for this one~!! canada.
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more of cold trip. this wheatland needs a hitch any one got one?
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nice original not the same tractor as the above original. nice canada tractor.
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and the parts form the one i parted out up in canada, hated to do it but went to get one seen another and can only haul one so i got the wheatland parts off the other one and made it all in one trip! it was a good day up north that day~!!
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Did AC make any other tractors that were officially labeled a wheatland tractor?  Never understood why a D17 wheatland had an adjustable front axle, the D17 was also too small of a tractor to be a competitive wheatland tractor.
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Nice job on that tractor. That paint job is better than they came with new i'm sure. Do you have any pic of the rest of your orange fleet?
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Good work Ben. Looks like you are getting the market cornered. For the record, not all Wheatlands go south from Canada. This year a propane Wheatland came north (not mine).
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Those sure are some neat looking machines.
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Hey Ben you got any pictures of a Waukesha WC??? LOL Any pictures of any projects that arn't yours that you helped someone with??????
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Ben,
Those are some nice looking tractors. 
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Originally posted by Claus Claus wrote:

Did AC make any other tractors that were officially labeled a wheatland tractor?  Never understood why a D17 wheatland had an adjustable front axle, the D17 was also too small of a tractor to be a competitive wheatland tractor.
 
At the time the D17 was AC's largest tractor, the D19 didn't come out till 1962. The wheatland fenders & wheels were added to a standard D17 WFE so that's why they had adjustable front axles.
 
Many companies issued "standard" versions of their row crop models or kept producing updated versions of older standard models. Wheatland or Standard are pretty much interchangeable terms. The WF was a standard version of the WC. The UC was the row crop version of the U, and the A and earlier models were before AC developed row crop tractors.


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I know the D17 was the largest from 1957 to 1962 but they never did build a 190 or 220 or any other Wheatland did they?

The D17 Wheatlands are unique but to me are not tru wheatland tractors like the other built.

That's not a knock against Ben's tractors, He did a superb job on them for sure.


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why did the wheatland tractors have the big fenders?? dust??
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Claus, in that time period, what "true" wheatland tractor existed, what makes a "true" wheatland tractor?  I think allis was the first to use the term "wheatland".  IH didn't use it until the 706/806/1206.  Before that they were just called international tractors, row crops were farmalls.  I am not sure that John Deere ever did make anything other than the D-R-80-820-830 line as a standard and never labled them other than standard.

International introduced the 560 standard in 58 and the D17 actually put more power to the ground than the 560 did, and the 57 600 according to the nebraska test.  Of course the 820 had them all beat, but hey? 

As far as allis building another wheatland model, I wouldn't call a D21 anything but a wheatland with those large tires, set back axle, ect.....

Also post 63, the row crop / standard / wheatland was blurred.  Traditional row crop tractor implements such as front mount cultivators was on their way out.  30" rows standardized for the most part.  And the large 5 bottom pull type plow that the wheatland tractors where designed for were replaced by semi mount plows that you could plow with all tires on land, none in the furrow(d21 first) Large single tires where replaced with more versatile duals

O, Ben nice wheatlands.  I don't have a picture of Marion's but I do believe his is slightly nicer.  Sorry. 
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A little off color but would one call the Oliver 70 standard a Wheatland tractor??


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How about Cockshutt 50, Case 900, Minneapolis Moline GP, as you mentioned several Deeres, Oliver 99 to mention a few.
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I know nothing about cockshutt, or MM.  Been around 1 900 and know what an oliver 99 is, who could miss that sound.. But what about them.  Yes the are big standard tractors?  Did the companies label them a wheatland?  All  I was saying is that the D17 wasn't all that disadvantaged compared to other offerings buy the big 3.  There where some tractors out there that were freaks of the time, just as there are now.  

I was also trying to point out why there was no 190/210 wheatland, by that time the tractors capabilities had grown to the point there was little need to differentiate. 
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If I'm not mistaken, Case called their wheatland types a "Western" They look classy with the two tone paint. AC Orange is still my favorite.
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Allis Chalmers model 220 & 210 tractors were available w/24.5 x 32 rear rubber, no PTO or 3pt, and a wide swing drawbar. ----Wheatland----
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If you ordered a 190 with wide swing drawbar, bare back and 23.1x30 tires I would call that wheatland. I don't know if Allis called them wheatland. I doubt it.
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Originally posted by firebrick43 firebrick43 wrote:

All  I was saying is that the D17 wasn't all that disadvantaged compared to other offerings buy the big 3.  There where some tractors out there that were freaks of the time, just as there are now.



You have your opinion and I have mine, fact is AC didn't build many D17 Wheatlands and stopped building them after 1959, must have been a reason for that.


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Originally posted by Claus Claus wrote:

Originally posted by firebrick43 firebrick43 wrote:

All  I was saying is that the D17 wasn't all that disadvantaged compared to other offerings buy the big 3.  There where some tractors out there that were freaks of the time, just as there are now.



You have your opinion and I have mine, fact is AC didn't build many D17 Wheatlands and stopped building them after 1959, must have been a reason for that.
 
AC wasn't the only one that quit building standard models. By 1960 there was a horsepower race and the big three were concentrating on building 100 hp wheel tractors. As is noted by their rarity and collectability, standards were never a large market. Standard, wheatland or industrial meant oversized tires with big fenders to cover them but no options like rear lifts or pto or even power steeing. One reason AC didn't sell many wheatland is they were selling plain D17s in the same market for less money. As modern higher horsepower tractors came out like the D21, 5020 and G1000 to name but a few, and midwest farms were growing by leaps and bounds, the wheatland tractors were discontinued although industrials were still produced.
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Originally posted by Dave in il Dave in il wrote:

Originally posted by Claus Claus wrote:

Originally posted by firebrick43 firebrick43 wrote:

All  I was saying is that the D17 wasn't all that disadvantaged compared to other offerings buy the big 3.  There where some tractors out there that were freaks of the time, just as there are now.



You have your opinion and I have mine, fact is AC didn't build many D17 Wheatlands and stopped building them after 1959, must have been a reason for that.
 
AC wasn't the only one that quit building standard models. By 1960 there was a horsepower race and the big three were concentrating on building 100 hp wheel tractors. As is noted by their rarity and collectability, standards were never a large market. Standard, wheatland or industrial meant oversized tires with big fenders to cover them but no options like rear lifts or pto or even power steeing. One reason AC didn't sell many wheatland is they were selling plain D17s in the same market for less money. As modern higher horsepower tractors came out like the D21, 5020 and G1000 to name but a few, and midwest farms were growing by leaps and bounds, the wheatland tractors were discontinued although industrials were still produced.

The fact that Allis wasn't overly represented in wheatland areas it seems would be a big reason there weren't that many D17 wheatlands.
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that is a pretty tractor i love the shine of the orange. someday mine will have that shine
 
 
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