lets see some wheatland d17 pics~!
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Topic: lets see some wheatland d17 pics~!
Posted By: acben20
Subject: lets see some wheatland d17 pics~!
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:33pm
here are some i have
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Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:38pm
wheat 2 
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Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:40pm
wheatland 4 my first one~!!
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Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:44pm
just like this pic. 
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Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:46pm
cold trip for this one~!! canada.
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Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:51pm
more of cold trip. this wheatland needs a hitch any one got one? 
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Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:55pm
nice original not the same tractor as the above original. nice canada tractor. 
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Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 11:58pm
and the parts form the one i parted out up in canada, hated to do it but went to get one seen another and can only haul one so i got the wheatland parts off the other one and made it all in one trip! it was a good day up north that day~!!
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Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 12:05am
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Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 12:12am
| Did AC make any other tractors that were officially labeled a wheatland tractor? Never understood why a D17 wheatland had an adjustable front axle, the D17 was also too small of a tractor to be a competitive wheatland tractor. |
Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 12:34am
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Posted By: agcodick
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:17am
| Nice job on that tractor. That paint job is better than they came with new i'm sure. Do you have any pic of the rest of your orange fleet? |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 9:41am
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Good work Ben. Looks like you are getting the market cornered. For the record, not all Wheatlands go south from Canada. This year a propane Wheatland came north (not mine). ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 10:16am
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Those sure are some neat looking machines. ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 2:50pm
| Hey Ben you got any pictures of a Waukesha WC??? LOL Any pictures of any projects that arn't yours that you helped someone with?????? |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 4:49pm
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Ben,
Those are some nice looking tractors.
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Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 11:40pm
At the time the D17 was AC's largest tractor, the D19 didn't come out till 1962. The wheatland fenders & wheels were added to a standard D17 WFE so that's why they had adjustable front axles.
Many companies issued "standard" versions of their row crop models or kept producing updated versions of older standard models. Wheatland or Standard are pretty much interchangeable terms. The WF was a standard version of the WC. The UC was the row crop version of the U, and the A and earlier models were before AC developed row crop tractors.
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Claus wrote:Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 11:42pm
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I know the D17 was the largest from 1957 to 1962 but they never did build a 190 or 220 or any other Wheatland did they? The D17 Wheatlands are unique but to me are not tru wheatland tractors like the other built. That's not a knock against Ben's tractors, He did a superb job on them for sure. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 12:46am
| why did the wheatland tractors have the big fenders?? dust?? |
Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 1:12am
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Claus, in that time period, what "true" wheatland tractor existed, what makes a "true" wheatland tractor? I think allis was the first to use the term "wheatland". IH didn't use it until the 706/806/1206. Before that they were just called international tractors, row crops were farmalls. I am not sure that John Deere ever did make anything other than the D-R-80-820-830 line as a standard and never labled them other than standard. International introduced the 560 standard in 58 and the D17 actually put more power to the ground than the 560 did, and the 57 600 according to the nebraska test. Of course the 820 had them all beat, but hey? As far as allis building another wheatland model, I wouldn't call a D21 anything but a wheatland with those large tires, set back axle, ect..... Also post 63, the row crop / standard / wheatland was blurred. Traditional row crop tractor implements such as front mount cultivators was on their way out. 30" rows standardized for the most part. And the large 5 bottom pull type plow that the wheatland tractors where designed for were replaced by semi mount plows that you could plow with all tires on land, none in the furrow(d21 first) Large single tires where replaced with more versatile duals O, Ben nice wheatlands. I don't have a picture of Marion's but I do believe his is slightly nicer. Sorry. |
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 1:16am
A little off color but would one call the Oliver 70 standard a Wheatland tractor??
 ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 1:20am
| How about Cockshutt 50, Case 900, Minneapolis Moline GP, as you mentioned several Deeres, Oliver 99 to mention a few. |
Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 2:01am
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I know nothing about cockshutt, or MM. Been around 1 900 and know what an oliver 99 is, who could miss that sound.. But what about them. Yes the are big standard tractors? Did the companies label them a wheatland? All I was saying is that the D17 wasn't all that disadvantaged compared to other offerings buy the big 3. There where some tractors out there that were freaks of the time, just as there are now. I was also trying to point out why there was no 190/210 wheatland, by that time the tractors capabilities had grown to the point there was little need to differentiate. |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 7:31am
| If I'm not mistaken, Case called their wheatland types a "Western" They look classy with the two tone paint. AC Orange is still my favorite. |
Posted By: Dale Hardtke
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 7:33am
| Allis Chalmers model 220 & 210 tractors were available w/24.5 x 32 rear rubber, no PTO or 3pt, and a wide swing drawbar. ----Wheatland---- |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 7:43am
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If you ordered a 190 with wide swing drawbar, bare back and 23.1x30 tires I would call that wheatland. I don't know if Allis called them wheatland. I doubt it. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 8:54am
You have your opinion and I have mine, fact is AC didn't build many D17 Wheatlands and stopped building them after 1959, must have been a reason for that. |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 10:10am
AC wasn't the only one that quit building standard models. By 1960 there was a horsepower race and the big three were concentrating on building 100 hp wheel tractors. As is noted by their rarity and collectability, standards were never a large market. Standard, wheatland or industrial meant oversized tires with big fenders to cover them but no options like rear lifts or pto or even power steeing. One reason AC didn't sell many wheatland is they were selling plain D17s in the same market for less money. As modern higher horsepower tractors came out like the D21, 5020 and G1000 to name but a few, and midwest farms were growing by leaps and bounds, the wheatland tractors were discontinued although industrials were still produced.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 10:18am
The fact that Allis wasn't overly represented in wheatland areas it seems would be a big reason there weren't that many D17 wheatlands. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 10:24am
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that is a pretty tractor i love the shine of the orange. someday mine will have that shine
remember i said someday lol ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 11:49am
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The fact that Allis wasn't overly represented in wheatland areas it seems would be a big reason there weren't that many D17 wheatlands. [/QUOTE]
Wheatland or standards were a hold over design for people who thought "little tractors" couldn't replace their Oilpull or Rumley. No maker sold huge numbers once they started producing row crop alternatives.
Times changed and the market did too. Crops other than wheat were being planted on the plains and conservation practices made plow, disc and drill less popular. Western farmers bought lighter, nimble and more versitile tractors, that had more power and implements that were easy to put on and take off.
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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 12:24pm
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Marion Klutzke's D17 Diesel  ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: George R. (MN)
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 3:44pm
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Thanks for posting the great photos. Looking forward to seeing more of your completed projects, maybe at Hutchinson this coming summer? Thanks again! ------------- My tractor is not leaking oil, it's just marking it's territory! |
Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 3:50pm
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ac ben ..deleate some of yur pm,s your mailbox is full ..i,d take one of them of your hands .... ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 7:21pm
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Beautiful tractors! I'd love to have any one of those for my collection. I'm looking for a bar grill D17 and a Wheatland version would be sweet, but they're scarce as hens teeth in Illinois and very pricey too!
Kinda like WFs, something else I'd love to own (a styled and an unstyled).
And a series III D17 to finish my collection, might as well wish for a high crop.
Champaign tastes and and a Coolade budget! LOL
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Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 12:18am
| Thanks for posting that Randy. The pic doesn't really do the tractor justice do to the shade from the tent. It a real first class job. |