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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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I am new to the AC family. This is my first ever post, I'm a bit behind the times. I recently purchased a AC-HD11 dozer (tractor serial# HD11E-6131, engine serial# 11-6054. I'm trying to find a part number for the air filter. I have looked through parts manual with no luck. The filter is square with 16 round tubes. 10 5/16"w× 8 1/4"tall. Tried to upload pictures but not sure exactly how. Thank you for any for any information you have. Also could anyone tell me what year it is I think its between 1960-1964 not real sure.
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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Finally figured out how to post. Please see attached for photos of air filter and measurements. Thanks
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32247 |
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Try Applications associates under a Baldwin Filter Search. They are about the only ones I can locate the Farr Dynacell for my 7G.
https://www.baldwinfilters.com/portal/site/Baldwin/menuitem.cbbae88e045ce676de8fe6de4256d1ca/?vgnextoid=35f91ef39676a610VgnVCM10000025651dacRCRD&vgnextfmt=EN#/?application=Off-Highway%20Applications&year=&make=&model=HD11B&engine=985&equipment=Crawler%20Tractors&manufacturer=ALLIS%20CHALMERS Yours is a PA1775 or PA1806 |
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 52584 |
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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Thank you very much for the information. The baldwin website link you sent me is packed with information. Unfortunately neither of the filters are the same dimension as mine.
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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Our NAPA store has been in business since the 1940's. I am lucky, the guys grew up in a farm community. I would take take it to them and have them cross it. You may not have that option. I did Google it. All States Ag parts shows a filter looks like yours -- part # PA 1806 for $58.99. replaces Frame CA 323 or AC # 70644042. Hope this helps.
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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Thank you. Unfortunately neither the pa1775, the pa1806 will fit my filter box
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Lazyts ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Manitoba Points: 627 |
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it is likely the original oil bath filter was replaced with the square type, likely not from an HD11 at all. The first dry cleaners on the HD11 were round, the square ones started in 1964 at serial number 10000. 1960 model year by serial number.
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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Interesting, any idea what kind of equipment the filter may have be off of? Thank you so 1960 model do you know if this is is just a standard hd11 or is it an hd11E.
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AC Mel ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: N.Ca. Points: 1113 |
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Yes..Trevor beat me to it...doesn't sound like original HD11 parts. Post us up some tractor pictures...we like pictures here...especially some of the air cleaner set up...as well as tractor pictures.
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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Here are the pics have. Sorry not the greatest. It's in the middle of the woods will try to get better pictures. Also has a bent rack tensioner on on left side. Anyone know how to repair or parts info possibly
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AC Mel ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: N.Ca. Points: 1113 |
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Ok...Cool! you did good on the pictures..Has the Lanova style engine still..The air filter does look similar to what they did have at that time....I'll have to look at a parts book in the morning when I get to my office. Nice specimen!
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JohnColo ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2020 Location: Niwot, CO Points: 1263 |
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The track pads sure look good, can't really see the rails to well. Looks like it's been sitting there for a while.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32247 |
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Based on the Hood Hole this is a conversion. The old element will have a Number on it somewhere, these all did where that will be you best hope. The Farr Dynacell on my Allis has a Metal Tag on the housing with the Farr p/n on it.
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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Thank you all very much. Old owner said it's been setting for around 20 years. Aid the reason they left it setting was. The through a track and bent the tensioner trying to force it back on. From what I deduced he didn't loosen the tensioner. And bent it trying to use the rear sprocket to force it back on to the idler.I've been giving it some TLC trying to bring the old girl back to life. I will try to get better pictures of the tracks and undercarriage.
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Acdiesel ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jun 2012 Location: Rochester Ohio Points: 2559 |
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here's one on E-Bay, wonder if it might fit? Its a donaldson P142799
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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This is a list of filters I have purchased so far.after trying to convert them. Can anyone verify that there the right ones. Lol. Pt265, pf916, pf906, pt385, p20-hd,and b2,
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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Unfortunately P142799 will not fit either thank you. Gonna try to call Baldwin and see if they can point me in the right direction
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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I found the air filter. Called Baldwin directly. (800-822-5394) and they were able to look it up by its dimensions. They said they could do it for virtually any filter you could think of. the filter is a PA1776. Thank you everyone for all the help in finding out what this thing was.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32247 |
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By Application Dresser or International, some odd logging machines.
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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Good luck with getting her going. Would love to have 1 here.
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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Thank you I have my fingers crossed. Good thin is if worse comes to worse. I picked it up for a steal. Picked it up for $1,000.00. I figure if I can't get her going I could possibly help others with getting there's running and part it out. Just really want to get it going.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32247 |
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Would suggest on the adjuster, to cut the bent threaded portion off the hex stem, then take both pieces to a machine shop and have a threaded rod made then welded to the hex length and reinstall.
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3787 |
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yes adjuster is easy fix. i suggest checking for fuel/and condition of in that injection pump and that it is not stuck before trying to start. those pumps are no longer serviceable. would also turn engine over by hand to verify no hangups before hitting with starter. could save a lot of headache later on.
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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So if I cut the adjuster I can just unscrew from idler and pull the adjuster shaft out? Or do I have have yo take the tensioner system apart to get adjusting rod out? Sorry for crapy verbiage just want to make sure I'm doing right. Don't screw it up
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32247 |
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May or may not Just Unscrew!! Take the lock off the yoke and may come right out, main thing is to release the stress against the yoke and hex section of the shaft then the hex can be lifted out of the way and the threaded end worked on.
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05ecofire ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 2020 Location: WV Points: 26 |
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Awesome thank you. I have another quick question. Dealing with injectors. I am looking for the copper gasket. I looked up the part number in the manual (4511204) but when I look on line and I found a few but the items that are coming up are priced way different and from one sight it is listed as A-4511204 and the other reference 74511204 as the OEM. So confused on what I'm supposed to buy any help would be greatly appreciated. Screenshot_20200520-210105_Chrome.jpgScreenshot_20200520-190726_Chrome.jpgScreenshot_20200520-190726_Chrome.jpg
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Ian Beale ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 975 |
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IIRC part numbers got that extra 7 added in front later on
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 32247 |
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That is correct Ian, as AC incorporated to FA that number change occurred. As to Nozzle coppers, any decent Fuel Injection shop can get those, does not have to be Allis.
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3787 |
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im sure minnpar.com stocks then and can order online if you want
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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