HD-11 Air filter.
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Topic: HD-11 Air filter.
Posted By: 05ecofire
Subject: HD-11 Air filter.
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 2:55pm
| I am new to the AC family. This is my first ever post, I'm a bit behind the times. I recently purchased a AC-HD11 dozer (tractor serial# HD11E-6131, engine serial# 11-6054. I'm trying to find a part number for the air filter. I have looked through parts manual with no luck. The filter is square with 16 round tubes. 10 5/16"w× 8 1/4"tall. Tried to upload pictures but not sure exactly how. Thank you for any for any information you have. Also could anyone tell me what year it is I think its between 1960-1964 not real sure. |
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Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 4:00pm
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Finally figured out how to post. Please see attached for photos of air filter and measurements. Thanks uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-163604_Gallery_2020-05-17_15-57-49.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-163604_Gallery_2020-05-17_15-57-49.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-163541_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-163541_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-163416_Gallery_2020-05-17_16-00-21.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-163416_Gallery_2020-05-17_16-00-21.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-163541_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-163541_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-163604_Gallery_2020-05-17_15-57-49.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-163604_Gallery_2020-05-17_15-57-49.jpg   
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 6:10pm
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Try Applications associates under a Baldwin Filter Search. They are about the only ones I can locate the Farr Dynacell for my 7G. https://www.baldwinfilters.com/portal/site/Baldwin/menuitem.cbbae88e045ce676de8fe6de4256d1ca/?vgnextoid=35f91ef39676a610VgnVCM10000025651dacRCRD&vgnextfmt=EN#/?application=Off-Highway%20Applications&year=&make=&model=HD11B&engine=985&equipment=Crawler%20Tractors&manufacturer=ALLIS%20CHALMERS" rel="nofollow - https://www.baldwinfilters.com/portal/site/Baldwin/menuitem.cbbae88e045ce676de8fe6de4256d1ca/?vgnextoid=35f91ef39676a610VgnVCM10000025651dacRCRD&vgnextfmt=EN#/?application=Off-Highway%20Applications&year=&make=&model=HD11B&engine=985&equipment=Crawler%20Tractors&manufacturer=ALLIS%20CHALMERS Yours is a PA1775 or PA1806 |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 9:18pm
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https://www.baldwinfilters.com/portal/site/Baldwin/menuitem.cbbae88e045ce676de8fe6de4256d1ca/?vgnextoid=35f91ef39676a610VgnVCM10000025651dacRCRD&vgnextfmt=EN#/partDetail/PA1775?application=Off-Highway%20Applications" rel="nofollow - https://www.baldwinfilters.com/portal/site/Baldwin/menuitem.cbbae88e045ce676de8fe6de4256d1ca/?vgnextoid=35f91ef39676a610VgnVCM10000025651dacRCRD&vgnextfmt=EN#/partDetail/PA1775?application=Off-Highway%20Applications
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Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 9:19pm
| Thank you very much for the information. The baldwin website link you sent me is packed with information. Unfortunately neither of the filters are the same dimension as mine. |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 9:26pm
| Our NAPA store has been in business since the 1940's. I am lucky, the guys grew up in a farm community. I would take take it to them and have them cross it. You may not have that option. I did Google it. All States Ag parts shows a filter looks like yours -- part # PA 1806 for $58.99. replaces Frame CA 323 or AC # 70644042. Hope this helps. |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 9:42pm
| Thank you. Unfortunately neither the pa1775, the pa1806 will fit my filter box |
Posted By: Lazyts
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 10:08pm
| it is likely the original oil bath filter was replaced with the square type, likely not from an HD11 at all. The first dry cleaners on the HD11 were round, the square ones started in 1964 at serial number 10000. 1960 model year by serial number. |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 10:19pm
| Interesting, any idea what kind of equipment the filter may have be off of? Thank you so 1960 model do you know if this is is just a standard hd11 or is it an hd11E. |
Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 10:23pm
| Yes..Trevor beat me to it...doesn't sound like original HD11 parts. Post us up some tractor pictures...we like pictures here...especially some of the air cleaner set up...as well as tractor pictures. |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 10:37pm
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Here are the pics have. Sorry not the greatest. It's in the middle of the woods will try to get better pictures. Also has a bent rack tensioner on on left side. Anyone know how to repair or parts info possibly uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232858_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232858_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232851_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232851_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232844_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232844_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232830_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232830_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232757_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232757_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232830_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232830_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232726_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232726_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232659_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232659_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232617_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232617_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232529_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232529_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232540_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232540_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232529_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232529_Gallery.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200517-232617_Gallery.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200517-232617_Gallery.jpg |
Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 10:56pm
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Ok...Cool! you did good on the pictures..Has the Lanova style engine still..The air filter does look similar to what they did have at that time....I'll have to look at a parts book in the morning when I get to my office. Nice specimen! |
Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 17 May 2020 at 11:54pm
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The track pads sure look good, can't really see the rails to well. Looks like it's been sitting there for a while. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 6:37am
| Based on the Hood Hole this is a conversion. The old element will have a Number on it somewhere, these all did where that will be you best hope. The Farr Dynacell on my Allis has a Metal Tag on the housing with the Farr p/n on it. |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 10:58am
| Thank you all very much. Old owner said it's been setting for around 20 years. Aid the reason they left it setting was. The through a track and bent the tensioner trying to force it back on. From what I deduced he didn't loosen the tensioner. And bent it trying to use the rear sprocket to force it back on to the idler.I've been giving it some TLC trying to bring the old girl back to life. I will try to get better pictures of the tracks and undercarriage. |
Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 11:04am
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here's one on E-Bay, wonder if it might fit? Its a donaldson P142799 Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Donaldson-P142799-Engine-Air-Filter-Allis-Chalmers-HD11-Dozer/223508962531?epid=1717907810&hash=item340a2c1ce3:g:TFwAAOSw-Qtc0xaa:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!44090!US!-1" rel="nofollow - - Donaldson P142799 Engine Air Filter Allis-Chalmers HD11 Dozer------------- D19 diesel,D17 diesel SER.3 D14 NF,D14 WF, D15 SER.II wf D15 SER.2 DIESEL,D15 ser.II nf D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II 2-720'S Gmc,caterpillar I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger) |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 11:06am
| This is a list of filters I have purchased so far.after trying to convert them. Can anyone verify that there the right ones. Lol. Pt265, pf916, pf906, pt385, p20-hd,and b2, |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 11:09am
| Unfortunately P142799 will not fit either thank you. Gonna try to call Baldwin and see if they can point me in the right direction |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 12:12pm
| I found the air filter. Called Baldwin directly. (800-822-5394) and they were able to look it up by its dimensions. They said they could do it for virtually any filter you could think of. the filter is a PA1776. Thank you everyone for all the help in finding out what this thing was. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 2:53pm
| By Application Dresser or International, some odd logging machines. |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 4:39pm
| Good luck with getting her going. Would love to have 1 here. |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 8:24pm
| Thank you I have my fingers crossed. Good thin is if worse comes to worse. I picked it up for a steal. Picked it up for $1,000.00. I figure if I can't get her going I could possibly help others with getting there's running and part it out. Just really want to get it going. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 5:49am
| Would suggest on the adjuster, to cut the bent threaded portion off the hex stem, then take both pieces to a machine shop and have a threaded rod made then welded to the hex length and reinstall. |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 8:14am
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yes adjuster is easy fix. i suggest checking for fuel/and condition of in that injection pump and that it is not stuck before trying to start. those pumps are no longer serviceable. would also turn engine over by hand to verify no hangups before hitting with starter. could save a lot of headache later on. ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 7:39am
| So if I cut the adjuster I can just unscrew from idler and pull the adjuster shaft out? Or do I have have yo take the tensioner system apart to get adjusting rod out? Sorry for crapy verbiage just want to make sure I'm doing right. Don't screw it up |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 2:21pm
| May or may not Just Unscrew!! Take the lock off the yoke and may come right out, main thing is to release the stress against the yoke and hex section of the shaft then the hex can be lifted out of the way and the threaded end worked on. |
Posted By: 05ecofire
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 8:08pm
| Awesome thank you. I have another quick question. Dealing with injectors. I am looking for the copper gasket. I looked up the part number in the manual (4511204) but when I look on line and I found a few but the items that are coming up are priced way different and from one sight it is listed as A-4511204 and the other reference 74511204 as the OEM. So confused on what I'm supposed to buy any help would be greatly appreciated. uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200520-210105_Chrome.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200520-210105_Chrome.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200520-190726_Chrome.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200520-190726_Chrome.jpg uploads/21093/Screenshot_20200520-190726_Chrome.jpg" rel="nofollow - Screenshot_20200520-190726_Chrome.jpg |
Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 1:32am
| IIRC part numbers got that extra 7 added in front later on |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 6:46am
| That is correct Ian, as AC incorporated to FA that number change occurred. As to Nozzle coppers, any decent Fuel Injection shop can get those, does not have to be Allis. |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 8:03am
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im sure minnpar.com stocks then and can order online if you want ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |