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Sugarmaker 
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 Posted: 01 Dec 2015 at 7:15pm |
Eric, Sorry I have not been following your thread close. I did a color change up on the wheels of the WD's I completed this year. I think if its clean fresh and functioning you can have a lot of fun and maybe do some work too. I would recommend that you look that pump over close. As mentioned the upper thumb screw seems to be missing in your painted pictures? Maybe I cant see it? but all those screws and knobs have a function and they all need to be there and able to function by hand. In hind site I would have recommended that you get a hyd. pump rebuild kit from one of the sponsors. I replaced gaskets on one of mine and have a leak at the front adjusting screw. On the other pump I went through the whole thing and replaced o-rings and gaskets. I felt it was worth the effort. Looks to me like you are highly capable of the project. There is nothing to magic about these and I know I had a couple questions during the rebuild and called Sandy Lake and their tech walked me through my issues. Couple shots might help??      Regards, Chris
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grateful1micelf
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Posted: 01 Dec 2015 at 8:18pm |
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Chris-
yes, in hindsight, a rebuild kit would have been nice. i DID make new gaskets for it, but all the lil' "o"rings and ball bearings would have been a good thing to replace while i had it all apart. i should have just cleaned it all up as an entire unit, but the my mechanical inclination took over and i needed to open it all up lol. fortunately, if/when i get this all figured out, i should be a wd45 hydraulic guru! i just came in from the shop after making more adjustments and sill nothing. i have a feeling it will be coming back out, so it may get a rebuild kit after all.
on another note, i see you hsave a jubilee and some cubs..my farm buddy cousin just acquired a jubilee and a cub from his grandpa. we have also been playing with those trying to get them cleaned up and running good again. love workin' on these old tractors, so it makes these issues a lil' more ok. thanks for your post and the pics bud
-eric
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grateful1micelf
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Posted: 01 Dec 2015 at 8:41pm |
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here's another pic. not sure why you can't see the thumb screw in that other pic. could it be that that cam is turned wrong?? when i rotate it all the way up, it barely clears that hole that it locks into on the opposite plate. in the old dirty pic, it looks like it goes much higher (more vertical) that what it does on the tractor now. that cam just looks wrong the more i look at i just can't put my finger on why. the thumb screw is for sure there though. if that cam isn't the issue, i must have done something wrong to the inside when i had it apart (which would suck lol) i'll keep situation posted
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Posted: 01 Dec 2015 at 9:00pm |
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stu(ON)
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Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 7:57am |
Eric, if your picture reflects the way that you have actually used the Hold Position Valve, you were not set up for draft control but rather for delayed lift or hold position. Here is a pic of mine that I snapped long ago of the HPV in hold position mode and you can see the position of the cam shaft and control lever. The plates are locked together. You could remove the connecting link to the drawbar spring and not know the difference. I see that the appropriate parts explosion is missing from the Op manual that I sent to you, so I will send a different, older one. Sorry if this pic is oversize; tired of messing with it.
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Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 7:32pm |
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Eric,
Just keep doing research and working on it. If I can tear one apart and put it back together you can too.
I see the thumb screw plain in that picture. Must be hidden on the tractor.
FYI I did not have that spring in place on mine from the cover down. Both my tractors needed quite a bit of attention on this pump and controls. They had been messed with a lot over the years and were just way out of whack.
Your doing good. Hope the Ford and Cubs are coming along also.
Regards,
Chris
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Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 8:56pm |
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thanks stu..thanks chris
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Posted: 27 Dec 2015 at 11:17am |
well, i finally got a few days off so that i could spend some time in the shop. of course it took the christmas holidays to get the time i needed. hope everyone had a nice christmas w/their families... anyway, update on tractor is that i ended up pulling hydro pump back off the tractor, i went all through everything i had disassembled the first time i had it off. i found no obvious issues. i did have a better look at the parts breakdown pictures to make dang sure i got the valves back in the proper order. i put it all back together and on the tractor. filled 'er up w/fluid, started 'er up and work like a champ (for the most part). only thing i can think was wrong is that i bled the system wrong or didn't have enough fluid or something dumb like that.  i think i still need to bleed the rams a lil more and i need to do some adjusting on the traction boost/drawbar. it's not raising it's self when it starts pulling too hard. once i get that worked out and some wheel weights, i think she'll pull a plow like crazy. next up is the engine gasket kit. i'll be delving into that pretty soon i hope, so i'll have all new sets of questions, i'm sure. i already think it's going to have at least a valve issue. i'm getting lots of blowby oil out the exhaust manifold. so there's the update. thanks again to those that helped me out so far and for any others that join in. eric
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 27 Dec 2015 at 1:48pm |
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For the traction booster to work well you need that spring connected to the hand clutch cover plate pulling on the lower lever.There is a lockout screw on lower lever which needs backed out to allow lever to move when drawbar linkage is pulling(drafting)on it and that linkage needs properly adjusted.
The shaft in the intermediate PTO gear is held in place with the set screw which has a tapered nose to fit in the hole.The old one appeared to be sheared off in the shaft.
Removing washers from BIG spring underneath makes it require MORE pull load before TB can operate.You have compressed spring making it harder to move.The spring to the cover plate and the drawbar linkage both hook over the same pin.When not using TB that lower thumb lock screw should be locked into dimple in hsg.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2015 at 10:11pm |
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the pin you are holdng,is what the pto gear slides on to engage the pto.this hole has a detent ball or slug,cant remember which.when you engage the pto,you can feel it go to engage and disengage.never saw one sheared such as that.....
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Posted: 28 Dec 2015 at 10:06am |
 SteveM C/IL wrote:
For the traction booster to work well you need that spring connected to the hand clutch cover plate pulling on the lower lever.There is a lockout screw on lower lever which needs backed out to allow lever to move when drawbar linkage is pulling(drafting)on it and that linkage needs properly adjusted.
The shaft in the intermediate PTO gear is held in place with the set screw which has a tapered nose to fit in the hole.The old one appeared to be sheared off in the shaft.
Removing washers from BIG spring underneath makes it require MORE pull load before TB can operate.You have compressed spring making it harder to move.The spring to the cover plate and the drawbar linkage both hook over the same pin.When not using TB that lower thumb lock screw should be locked into dimple in hsg. |
thanks for the bit of info steve. i knew the washers on the big spring +/- the tension, but wasn't exactly sure how. i think i have too many though. so, by what you said above, i need less washers correct? because i want the spring to relax and extend? if i add washers it compresses the spring and doesn't allow it to have as much flex/movement? that sound correct, or bass ackwards? anyway, thanks for the help. i'm sure i'll get it figured out if i have to pull it apart 1/2 dozen times.  eric
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 8:50am |
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update on 45 engine is that there's not much update. it's all apart and i've been cleaning on it, but still have much to do. after cleaning the head surfaces and looking a lil' closer at all my parts, i noticed that one of the pistons has rubbed the sleeve in the cylinder?!?! it appears that either something got in the cylinder or the piston has developed too much play at some point. the wear on the sleeve and piston is right on 2 spots on one side of the wrist pin, so the sleeve has 2 nice lil' racing stripes where that pin has rubbed. not really sure why it rubbed that way?? kinda thinking my missing governor weight might have something to do w/it, but i honestly don't know. anyway, think i've talked micelf into new rings and sleeves and probably bearings (full piston kit minus rods) and probably a valve kit. i really think i could reuse all my valve stuff, and just clean and relap 'em but i'd like to just replace 'em.
on a side note, i haven't had much time on the 45 lately because i got a lil' farmall cub, 1948 model. been tinkering w/it gettin' the garden going. also became a chicken farmer this year so cousin and i had to build a hen house and coop. been busy, as i'm sure most of you on here have been this time of year. HAPPY EASTER everyone!! hope you all have blessed days. i'll post up some pics of my progress, soon. take care all
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 9:55am |
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Sounds like the wrist pins are not set on the rods right, look at the manual again, it has a pic and INFO on how to set the pins on the rods as per the offset they are set for the number cylinder they go in.
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 10:23am |
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Eric,
You have been busy! Thanks for the update on the 45! Don is the go to guy as you rebuild the Allis engine!
How many chickens are you going to have?
Happy Easter!
Regards,
Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 27 Mar 2016 at 10:24am
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 12:36pm |
Don(MO) wrote:
Sounds like the wrist pins are not set on the rods right, look at the manual again, it has a pic and INFO on how to set the pins on the rods as per the offset they are set for the number cylinder they go in.
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don, thanks sir. that's how the engine was when i got it. i just noticed it when i started to get things cleaned up. all the wrist pins look like they're assembled the same. i DID notice that it looks like they will slide out of the pistons a lil' bit on one side but not the other, so i see what you're saying about the direction in which they go. i'll be getting more info and researching before i actually put new parts together. thanks again don..your video, pics and advice are very helpful for what i'm doing. eric
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 12:40pm |
Sugarmaker wrote:
Eric,
You have been busy! Thanks for the update on the 45! Don is the go to guy as you rebuild the Allis engine!
How many chickens are you going to have?
Happy Easter!
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Chris
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we have 10 grown hens (mostly cinnamon queens, a rhode is. red, couple americana easter eggers) then we have 10 of the same variety of pullets that are just now about 6 weeks old and are getting acclimated w/the hens...they're a hoot! love watching them and they produce tons of eggs. Happy Easter to you too, Chris
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 1:08pm |
 this is the cub i got. hadn't been started in about 12 years. got it from a friend who had it in a shed for all that time. put new plugs, wires, n dist. cap on it, and tried turnin' it over blasting carb cleaner and starting fluid through for about 30 minutes and she came right to life! pretty cool. she's plowed, cultivated, and hilled the garden already. love this lil' thing! eric
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 1:16pm |
here's some garden and chicken coop pics  
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 1:25pm |
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I've always been told that you want at least one bolt, screw, washer, or nut left over or you project will blow to pieces!. Leon R Cmo
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 1:27pm |
and here are some of the pics of the 45 engine  notice how the wrist pin is worn on either side.. also noticed a bunch of scratches on the head..assume that's from previous owners scraping gasket or something???   and here you can see 2 distinct marks where the wrist pin has rubbed the cylinder sleeve
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