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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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John,
Thanks! Well right now you guys know just about as much as I do about it. Anyone have magic cleaning methods of old iron other than soap and water?? How is the WD coming along? Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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Folks,
The 32 is home! Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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plummerscarin
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3477 |
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Looks even better in the daylight. A great find IMO
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ac hunter
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jan 2011 Location: OHIO Points: 991 |
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x2. Sure would look good as an original survivor. Interesting that it has a PTO driven hyd. pump in that era. An uncle of mine had a dump trailer that was the back half of an old truck and I thought he told me it was from the mid thirties. Anyway it had a gearbox and crank that dumped the body as it drove a big arc with gear teeth under the body. Dad used it a few times to haul gravel for the barn floor and "let" me crank it. I thought he was doing me a favor at the time. Can't wait to see your progress. Seems like the most recent treasure gets the first work a lot of times. Good luck.
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wjohn
Orange Level Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Location: KS Points: 1992 |
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Slowly! I keep running into other things that are more urgent, like the garden at the moment. I have been collecting parts and hope to get some time spent on it this weekend. That is just one sweet truck. I will be following as the rough looking CA I picked up needs the hood cleaned but the rest is not too bad, and I'd like to not have to paint it.
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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45
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tadams(OH)
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10125 |
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Sure does look good for its age
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plummerscarin
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3477 |
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I was looking again and noticed how large today's pickups are compared to the "big truck " '32 on the trailer.
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9262 |
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You might try a small spot with Simple Green. That stuff is pretty aggressive but don't usually harm the paint.
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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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Yes this is about 16 feet x 80 inches across the duals. Not a big truck. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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John, Thanks might try that Simple Green as a cleaner! Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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HD6GTOM
Orange Level Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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Those 750x20 tires are still being made. Most made in China now. Be sure and get new tubes and make sure you get new flaps with the tires. Take a good wire brush on a drill or air grinder and clean up the rings and groves in the rims. I'd love to mount them for you on a cool day. My old supplier is out of the tires, when that happens they take the price down so I cannot get you a current price for the tires. Good luck with the old gal. I'd pull the box and make things a lot easier to get too.
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9262 |
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Just out of curiosity, do the sell disk brake conversion for something like that? I know they do for lot's of old cars. Get your mask on, those look like real asbestos shoes.
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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31094 |
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Brake Shoes and Clutch discs are not and have never been considered 'Friable Asbestos' where is a component part of the materials but is 'locked in a submatrix of cemented fibrous material'. That comes directly from EPA.
Would not even consider changing to modern anything as that truck is pretty well a prize buyers delight being OEM and pretty well intact.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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Folks,
I dont know what i dont know yet on this deuce! I did some rework on brake mechanical parts on the right front end. Working on the rear fight now. Ok got the lug nuts off, realized that there are large studs ove small studs that hold the inside rim on the drum. (Sorry I just dont work on these and am still learning). Of course one of the studs turned off with the nut. But I got it apart after the wheel was off. Now to figure out how the drum comes off the keyed axle. Maybe its just tight? I turned the brake adjuster to release the brake shoes. Broke my low cost puller. Humm back to research on these. My guess is its just stuck from 70 years of setting waiting! Ignition: Need door striker for drivers side. Going to Snyders Friday so thay may have one ?? Going to pick up new seat springs. Goofy since I havent even started it yet! Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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JohnColo
Orange Level Joined: 03 Apr 2020 Location: Niwot, CO Points: 1258 |
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Chris, I finally made it home yesterday, didn't have the password to post on my I pad, so could only read. Thank you so much for taking the time to show us your toys and y(our) shop! All three of us were really impressed, even Jimmy who is not easy to impress. Between the interior of the shop and the Duce, looks like you will have enough to keep you busy the rest of the summer!
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 51703 |
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Re the duallies, yes, pretty much standard wheel set up. When you put it back together, a nice thick coat of never-sieze makes the job easier, next time. Remember you have 5 pieces of metal coming together, there...Do fords have LH threads on the left side lug nuts?
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JTOOL
Silver Level Access Joined: 28 Feb 2021 Location: 64720 Points: 346 |
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@Sugarmaker; Wow! You're making me rethink ever retiring as I think I get more sleep working than you do retired. LOL! Seriously, I am really enjoying this thread (as I do all of your threads).
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JTOOL
Silver Level Access Joined: 28 Feb 2021 Location: 64720 Points: 346 |
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@DiyDave; I think that all Budd type wheels are right hand thread passenger side, left hand thread drivers side.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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Folks,
Yes these are left hand threads on the lug nuts on the left hand side of the truck. trying to get a stout puller for the rear drums. Borrowed one from a friend will try to get the drums off this weekend. Repaired and reworked this shift lever and added over size pin. Very similar to a WD shifter! Before: After: I think I used a 17/64 dia drill that I used for the hole and the pin. A lot less wobble in the shifter. I think socket is worn deeper just like a WD series too. I did not weld the ball on the truck shifter (yet). Sticks just a luttle going from second to third. Have to pull the shifter up just a little in neutral. This spare wheel well is rusted: Also the passengers side door. Probably had pluged drain holes?? Regards, Chris |
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JTOOL
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@Sugarmaker; Are the outer hex nuts 1-1/2" and the inner "barrel" nuts 13/16" square head?
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9262 |
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If you can get to the brake adjuster hole, you could try adjusting the bakes all of the way in to get the drum off.
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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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tadams(OH)
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10125 |
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The spark plugs look brand new
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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Joihn, tadams,
These have a external wrenching feature for loosening the brake shoes. It is one of Ford's better ideas! Those are new plugs from NAPA. I would like to use the 70 year old plugs. Got the rear passenger side drum off: Rebuilt shift lever ball and slot. Just like a WD series tractor! Over on the Ford barn for this project! Regards, Chris Edited by Sugarmaker - 18 Jun 2021 at 3:04pm |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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tadams(OH)
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10125 |
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Slow and steady and you will have it purring again
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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t, folks,
Yes we can not rush this a lot. Aging like a fine wine, we must sip and savor it! Have to find seals for the rear brake drums. Wish me luck. Brakes all look to be in really good shape! Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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John, Sure was great to have you and your friends visit! Stop in any time your back this way! Folks, Status up date on the 32. Wheels are almost done. Tire shop took the old tires off. In the process the lock rings got stretched. I worked these back into shape. Cleaned the tire portion of the rims, needle scaler, air hammer, light grinding, wire brushing, and the a good coat of Rust-Oleum 2X flat black primer. Exterior of wheels was left alone. Have the 7 new Firestone 6.00-20 tires, new tubes and flaps. Ready for install next Tuesday at tire shop with a cage. Brakes drums removed and right front needed taken apart and repaired. Rear drums needed new grease seals. Done. Regards, Chris |
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tadams(OH)
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10125 |
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Sounds like progress is being made despite the hot weather.
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plummerscarin
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Nice to see you are making progress. I say wise move leaving wheel exteriors as is.
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Steve in NJ
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11816 |
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I'm coming on this post pretty late, but I can tell ya Chris, you're gonna have a ball with that truck!! I had two 29' closed cab AA's over the years. One was 131.5" WB, and the other was a 157" WB. Both AA's had rack bodies on them. Finding a double B is even cooler! Keep them pics comin' like you usually do. Like I said, you're gunna' have a lot of fun with that bugger! Congrat's!!
Steve@B&B
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8290 |
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T, plummer, Steve, Folks,
Most of my documentation is over on the Ford Bard Forum. Some teasers: Great grandson Cooper:, He gave me a big hug when helping drain the oil yesterday. Have to get this running soon! Seat material color Will pick up a set of custom springs from Snyder's today. These are their standard version. Dang still holds water!! Underside of rad cap, says EATON. These caps are like hens teeth. 110,000 made, very few left out there! Mine has some dents but some guys have bought whole trucks to get a radiator cap! Drained 2 gallons of very clear odd smelling stuff from the gas tank last night. Have a shut valve to clean out on the tank bottom. Have crank case filled with some kerosene to soak for a day. May pull the head, and carb, and side cover on engine. I hate to pull the engine, its a very slippery slope!:) Regards, Chri Edited by Sugarmaker - 02 Jul 2021 at 6:25am |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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