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Burns-Tractor-Sales 
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 Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 2:33pm |
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The yellow wire goes to the POS side of the battery,
when the engine is cranked over it throws a 1" spark.
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Burns-Tractor-Sales
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Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 2:36pm |
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The black button on the "Right" side of your screen is the "Kill" and the chrome button on the lower right is the "Start" button, the other switches are the headlights.
This old tractor doesn't have hardly anything for wiring, what you see is all that is there.
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Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 5:42pm |
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OK... I'm getting closer, I tried removing the spark plugs and turning over the engine to get out the gas in case it is flooding, I the spun the engine for a lot longer this time and then put back in the plugs and tried to start it. It started but it was rough, it ran for about 10 seconds and then quit, the more I tried to start it the less it would run.
I am now thinking the float in the carburetor needs adjusted, does anyone know where the float should be adjusted to?
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dadsdozerhd5b
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Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 7:21pm |
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with the bowl off and the carb upside down the float should be parallel to the bowl base. basically level. try blowing in it with your mouth to be sure seat is working and not just slowing the gas down.
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HD5B, HD5G, (2) FARMALL A's, CUB. DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, IGNORE THE LAUGHTER. FLANNEL IS ALWAYS IN STYLE.
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Lonn
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Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 7:54pm |
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Once after I went through a carberator I somehow bent the float so that it hung up on the inside of the carb and caused immediate flooding. Scratch my head on that one til I took the carb off again and just happen to notice I didn't hear the float jangle when I turned it upside down and back again.
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Burns-Tractor-Sales
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Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 8:27pm |
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It is definitely flooding.
When I try to start the tractor it tries to run, it pops a few times and then quits.
I did notice when it quits it runs gas out the air intake on the carburetor.
I sunk the float in hot water and I didn't see any air bubbles so I don't think the float is sinking, the needle isn't sticking and the needle seat is tight.
What would make the carb flood like that ???
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Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 8:58pm |
Did you check to see if the float is hanging up?
Can you try another carb from a running tractor?
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Burns-Tractor-Sales
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Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 9:21pm |
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I'll check to see if the float is hanging up,
I don't have any other carburetors to try.
I'll keep looking,
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 10:44pm |
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Disconnect the air cleaner and try running it. If the air cleaner is plugged it will run like it was choked. I have had a carb (not on an Allis) that the float would stick down when it dropped and flood the engine. Is the choke connected to the rod properly? It isn't sucking the choke shut when it starts is it?
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Posted: 03 Jun 2011 at 9:23am |
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someone said if it has a rubber tipped needle (which it does), to tap
the needle into the seat so it makes a ring on the rubber tip, so it will seal tighter. I did
that this morning and I had the tractor running for about 20 seconds,
(longest it has ran in a long time)
then it flooded again and then would not start?
I checked and the float is not hanging up, the needle and seat are new so there shouldn't be any thing in there.
The float is bent right, so I still don't know why it is flooding?
when it fires and then quits, it blows all of this gas out of the air intake?
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Posted: 03 Jun 2011 at 11:57am |
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Check the float for a hole!
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 03 Jun 2011 at 10:13pm |
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When the carb is assembled, if the drop isn't set right on the float it can drop too far and hang up on the bowl. I know of no way to check this other than to set the drop to the manufacturers specifications. I just went through this on my 35 WC. It would flood real easy sometimes when trying to start it. The bowl was 1 7/8 deep and the float dropped 2" when separated from the bowl. I bent the tab to hold the float to about 1 5/8" and it seems to be working fine. Your carb may be different so you have to find the specs or measure the parts and figure out what should work.
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