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1970sFarmer ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 2016 Location: Smyrna, TN 3716 Points: 39 |
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Those are really sweet. When the came and got the 7020, heheh, they for the, remember these...Jack screws...those long bolts that you use to pull / push the outer dual off....
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1970sFarmer ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 2016 Location: Smyrna, TN 3716 Points: 39 |
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Intrepretation:
when they came for the tractor, they forgot the jack screws....
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ILGLEANER ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Willow Hill,ILL Points: 6448 |
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That would probably have been a Rotara, not sure on the spelling. It has forks that rotated back and forth then a rolling basket. Ran off the pto, and was 3 point mounted. Should have been red in color. |
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ILGLEANER ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Willow Hill,ILL Points: 6448 |
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Must have had cast duals. Pusher bolts pushed the wedges off the axial. |
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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A friend of mine bought a 7050 new, and not too long afterwards, he was getting sick of the (what he called ugly) maroon paint, so he painted it black. Low and behold, a few years later, A-C began painting the bellies black instead of maroon! That might be the case here....Of course, since the 7020 wasn't out in 1976....I don't know... Pics would be great!
I am also leaning toward a 7040 transmission in a 7020.
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GM Guy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 31 Jul 2012 Location: NW KS / S.C. ID Points: 1985 |
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I am going to guess that the tractor was a 1976 Allis 7040 maroon belly, or a 7060.
Also, the implement discussed sounds like a Lely Roterra? Or a Lilliston Rolling Cultivator? google search each and report back which one it is. Keep digging for photos! |
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Dkienzle ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 22 Feb 2013 Location: Central IA Points: 192 |
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Did yours have flashers in the roof like lons pictures? |
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Jordan(OH) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Celina, OH Points: 1562 |
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1970s, did you have the 1066 and 70-whatever at the same time? If the 1066 didn't pull your disk, a 7020 would not have been an upgrade hp wise.
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1970sFarmer ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 2016 Location: Smyrna, TN 3716 Points: 39 |
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Closer to the Lely Rotera the lillian rolling cultivator.
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29805 |
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Early 1066 tractors were lower horse powered than 7020 but not by much. maybe 10 hp lower.
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8611 |
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sometimes we don't remember what things were exactly....I have a 8070 now and my cousins dad bought a new 8030 back in the day.My cousin keeps referring to the 8070 they used to have.....but he is a duffuss
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bigal121892 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Location: Nebraska Points: 812 |
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The top of the ROPS, was it metal, or fiberglass?
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1970sFarmer ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 2016 Location: Smyrna, TN 3716 Points: 39 |
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The "1066" was actually the Deutz 100 06, not IH 1066. I apologize if In mislead anyone. The Deutz probably could out pull most tractors of v equitable HP, but with single drives, traction loss was the biggest failure.
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1970sFarmer ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 2016 Location: Smyrna, TN 3716 Points: 39 |
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Fiber glass
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bigal121892 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Location: Nebraska Points: 812 |
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You got me.
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grinder220 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Clinton Iowa Points: 2370 |
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7030 maybe? Do you remember if the engine had an intercooler on it and if filled the engine compartment when looking at it with the side panels on? The 7020 has a 301 with an intercooler and you can see daylight over the top of the engine where as a 7030 or larger was a 426 cu. and you couldn't see over that engine. How about the idiot lights on the dash....6 small round lights or a plastic 2 by 3 piece cluster?
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29805 |
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Now you are just gonna have to try and find pics. And as I said before, we all love pics.
I think all non-cab, ROPS models, be it maroon belly or black, had a fiberglass top with the flasher lights in the top. All cabbed 7030 and 7050 had the fiber glass top. I think all later cabbed models had a metal top. Unsure about the very early 7040, 7060, 7080 as far as cab tops go. There is a 7040 on tractor house with the flashers in the cab top on front. I think I have sales brochures showing some 7040/7060 models with flashers in cab top but parts book only shows metal top parts number for cabbed models. All ROPS non-cab show part number for fiber glass top. |
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Dkienzle ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 22 Feb 2013 Location: Central IA Points: 192 |
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I wonder if he would remember what side of the tractor the starter was on.
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1970sFarmer ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 2016 Location: Smyrna, TN 3716 Points: 39 |
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I don't think so, although interested in tractors, I didn't know much about them...
like, intercoolers, I knew what a turbo was, but which side a starter was on....don't think so.
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21818 |
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Which side the engine oil filters were on??
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1970sFarmer ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 2016 Location: Smyrna, TN 3716 Points: 39 |
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Not saying it happened, but when did Allis introduce 7030 and the 7020, because I wonder if we got a re-sklinned 7030 to 7020 and not a 7020...Was the 7030 maroon bellied?
Also, why did Allis introduce the 7000 series like they did... I always thought the sequence was 7000,7010,7020,7030,7040,7050,7060,7080... but I gleaned that the sequence was more(1973-1974) 7030-7050,(1975-1979)7000-7040,,('74-1981)7060,(1978-1981)7020 -7045-7080. Could someone explain.
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3804 |
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sequence wise you are correct but they were not all released at the same time and some models were replaced by others
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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1970sFarmer ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 2016 Location: Smyrna, TN 3716 Points: 39 |
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They made it as confusion as hades in winter...
Edited by 1970sFarmer - 19 Jul 2016 at 3:32pm |
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LeonR2013 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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Whew. Glad you guys got the dust settled. Sure stirred up my allergies. LOL
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29805 |
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7030/7050 = January 1973 thru sometime in 1974, 7040/7060/7080 maroon belly = 1974 thru 77 7000 maroon = 1975 thru 1978 7020/7045/7060/7080 black belly = 1977-81 7000 black belly 1978 thru 1979 7010 black belly = 1979 thru 81 At least that is what I think is right.
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thendrix ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 5084 |
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Ddddddddamn right! |
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Lynn Marshall ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Dana, Iowa Points: 2375 |
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A couple of my observations. I consider all 7030 & 7050 to be 1973 or 1974. Only 1973 models had the black face cab. These tractors had a plastic roof with the flashers in them. I call the first year 7040-7060-7080s 1975 models. They still used the plastic roof. 1976 was the first metal roof. I think that 1976 was also the first power shift.1977 models had a different dash, rectangular, electronic idiot lights instead of the six individual round lights. They had a much larger power shift filter also. 1978 was the first black belly. 7020-7045-7060-7080. They had the accousta cab 2,larger steps, but still used a steel fuel tank. The gear shift lever was moved to the side in 1978 on the power directors. 1979s went to a plastic fuel tank. 1981s used the Bosch injectors. The straight 7000 were 1976 & 1977 maroon belly with a dry clutch. 1978 7000 was black belly and used the first speed of the power director as an inching clutch. The last year of the 7000,those tractors used a larger muffler, like the larger framed tractors. The earlier ones just used a round muffler like a 200. The 7010 took the place of the 7000 in 1980 as I recall. I consider 1982 to be the first year of the 8000s. These are just for my reference. Actual dates when the models were introduced may be different from what I perceive them to be. Many other improvements and updates were added thru the years and did not necessarily correspond to any specific years model.
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1970sFarmer ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jul 2016 Location: Smyrna, TN 3716 Points: 39 |
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I have my mom and sister looking, or hope to..my dad needs mom's help alot. I know I have 8mm movies of our Deutz and Massey, I hope to have at least a photo of the 7020...
Guys, I really appreciate all the responses to this conun
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29805 |
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8000 series had build dates in December 1981 I believe. They are considered 1982 models I suppose. I always go by the build date myself to determine year of tractor.
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