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Jim NEIN 
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Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 11:29am |
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Yea someone did'nt do their homework, nice looking except for the handle.Got one in the mail a couple weeks ago,don't know why because I did not order it.H.ave'nt paid for it
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JPG AUSTRALIA
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Posted: 26 Mar 2017 at 7:35am |
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Its not the collector who will buy it but his wife or mum or kids and then you feel bad knowing its sh-t ,but they think you love it. And every time you use it it grates on you..
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Rog(NCWI)
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Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 8:18pm |
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They will catch some poor sucker and sell him the so called Allis-Chalmers mug and make money on it. A person really has to check out stuff these days and know what you are buying.
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shameless (ne)
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Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 9:34am |
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years ago...local Allis dealer ran an ad in the local paper. the paper people put a picture of a green tractor in the ad. the dealer blew up and wanted a retraction, the paper said a tractor is a tractor. dealer said he wanted to put another ad in their paper. stating: no one should buy this newspaper, buy the big city newspaper as this one is just a poorly run gossup paper! they ran a retraction! they also learned that different colored equipment denotes different manufacturers!
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Fred in Pa
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Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 9:12am |
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Well ,This is why u look at stuff real good before u buy it. Do not understand why this would up set anyone real bad. U see stuff like all the time .A person that knows it is wrong will not buy it CORRECT ????.Don't sweat the small things that don't cost u anything .
You really think any thing sent to them will change anything .
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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.
Just because you do not have the tools for job , it dose not make it a bad design.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 6:52am |
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I just sent an email to "Product Information". It may not be the right place and will most likely be deleted. Here is my email content:
Is your Allis Chalmers stein a result of piss poor research, poor translation, or just plain lack of interest in getting things right?
The handle is a great representation of a Farmall M or H, a competitor of Allis.
The D17 was introduced in 1957 at considerably more than $500. And the B was introduced in 1937 and didn't have electric start or a distributor as pictured on the "stein".
Somebody SHOULD lose their job for this ridiculous example of lackawanna.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 6:41am |
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Funny, NOT, how the 1929 B has a starter and distributor too!
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 25 Mar 2017 at 6:00am |
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OK.. as a 'diversion' from the 'cracked stack' I have to deal ,with I was curious about the steins... I ALWAYS get redirected to the Canadian BE website. So, I emailed them, turns out they do NOT allow Canadians to buy from the American website and have items shipped into Canada! Gets better. They ALSO do NOT allow Canadians to order from the USA and have product sent to any US address !!! Idiots.
I'm sorry guys, but I can't surprise buy/ship any 'rare' A-C steins to you.
Jay
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Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 12:40pm |
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Sure enough! They've got three Farmall steins, $79.95 each. All told, they've got a chitpot of steins, most pretty ugly IMHO!
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Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 12:34pm |
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I got a reply back that they are looking into it. Wonder what that means. I don't know what Pat charges for a full page ad in Antique Power but I'll bet it's a bunch! Can't imagine many AC collectors buying such a mistake. I wonder if they have a Binder (IHC) mug?
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Unit3
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Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 11:05am |
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Their R and D people need leave; now. Always wanted to use a ";" ,just never had a need to. I too have seen the Farmall handle on stein, the UC tin with the WC title and its CA seat spring. My favorite has to be the Last Of The Line 6070 S.N. 1971 toy, but we all know the last 6070 was S.N. 1972. You can just buy the last 6070 at the auction, me, I want the second to the last 6070 and have everyone buying a numbered toy of my tractor.
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 9:48am |
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Could be worse. Could have been a green handle!!! LOL
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Dusty MI
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Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 8:13am |
They probably molded a lot of those handles for IHC mugs/steins, then only print as many of the pictures that go around the mugs as needed, easier to print more pictures than mould more handles.
Dusty
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corbinstein
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Posted: 24 Mar 2017 at 6:29am |
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I think that they should be forced to recall that stuff. That'll teach em. Now if we can just get the ASDA, FDA or somebody like that involved....LOL Wait, you drink with it right? It comes from China? How much Lead might be in it?
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 7:16pm |
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Somebody needs to start over again and do their homework! If first you don't succeed, try, try, again.... LOL!
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john(MI)
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 6:56pm |
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They push that crap out and hope that many AC people have many folks that won't know and buy them as gifts for their loved ones!
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steelwheelAcjim
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 6:53pm |
https://www.bradfordexchange.com/service_contact-us.html
Use this link to make a complaint. You will have to fill in the required boxes for your personal information. Leave a comment about this screw-up in the comment section.
C'mon collectors and users of A-C equipment, Lets defend a lasting legacy!!!!
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Pre-WW2 A-C tractors on steel wheels...because I'm too cheap to buy tires!
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 6:46pm |
 JimWenigOH wrote:
Speaking of Fake History, I was up at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI a few years ago. They had on display a JD 7000 series planter listed as the first no-till planter...NOT. |
That's the type of crap I deal with. Misinformation, totally wrong information, or a completely new narrative. And...you don't even need the internet to see it. Maybe the "Correct Police" are not that bad after all? At least they care about being accurate.
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Pre-WW2 A-C tractors on steel wheels...because I'm too cheap to buy tires!
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Bob D. (La)
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 6:43pm |
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That is just so wrong in so many ways. Hard to believe they actually produced it.
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DiyDave
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 6:38pm |
Methinks they tried out the mug, afore writing the history... 
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 4:13pm |
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Speaking of Fake History, I was up at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI a few years ago. They had on display a JD 7000 series planter listed as the first no-till planter...NOT.
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 3:22pm |
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yep that handle is right off a farmall "H" or "M"! dum azzes
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 3:05pm |
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How many of us have been at AC tractor shows where vendors are selling the metal signs with a picture of a UC and saying it's a WC ? Good for you guys that responded to them via e-mails after all how they going to learn unless someone teaches them.
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 2:52pm |
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China man at factroy have trouble with tranzlachion.
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Bill_MN
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 2:47pm |
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And to think it's FULLY LICENSED....yeah, fully licensed crap! By the Archer Well Company no less...
Edited by Bill_MN - 23 Mar 2017 at 2:48pm
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 1:44pm |
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I clicked on the orange link and was autodirected to the CANADIAN website ! arrrgh.....
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 12:27pm |
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Wow, that handle is right off an H! lol!
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 12:26pm |
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Guess that'd how rumors get started
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 12:12pm |
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thats real bad at least they could get the handle right, why would an allis guy want a half farmall ? i did not see a place to send an e mail
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 11:47am |
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Thinking about it some more got me so upset I fired off an email to them too!
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