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shameless dude 
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Posted: 25 Oct 2018 at 9:52pm |
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Les….you gots a good windmill head and fan?
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Les Royer
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Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 2:18am |
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I do. An I promised it to Tracy but he won't come get it!
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I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now.
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Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 7:33am |
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Les, it is too far. Let Shameless have it. Thanks Tracy
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Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 8:21am |
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COOL! what brand is it, is it ready to load? how much? is it a working fan? what does it need? I gots lots of questions huh?
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Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 9:06am |
Dang,,,,I'm gonna HAVE to go see ole Les pretty quick,,,,he,,,he,,just gots lots of interestin stuff to sell or steal,,don't he,,?? I been thinkin on them windmills for some time,,, Out here there used to be lots and lots of windmills all over the place but in the last 20-30 years they have phased em out and this year durin the Elk and Deer hunts,,,I did not see a single windmill that was complete or even been complete in a long time,,, I did see one that the tower seened to be complete but the fan was gone,,. Does anybody know why they went the way of the dinosauers? I mean,,they are free energy,,and all the wells out there are now got pumpjacks being run by small engines either gasoline or diesel,,,?????
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Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 1:27pm |
Not many want to climb up and do the maintenance. An the young like the modern new stuff  . Only when its gone do we miss what use to be.
But Farm Collector magazine that just came had story on windmill museum in Texas. An a 23 year old kid that already has a bunch and fixing more.
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Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 1:30pm |
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Now to the more trouble some part of this, Mr Shenanigan a windmill and a a infamous "machine". Anybody else see trouble coming??????????????????????
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Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 3:46pm |
Yeah,,Ray,,I was wonderin the same thing bout his REAL reason for wantin a windmill right before winter weather sets in,,,,,,,,, Thas the reason I was tryin to lure him out to catch his real reasons for wantin one of them things,,,,,,,,,maybe ole Les oughta hang loose a few days on sellin till we get the real drift of his reasons for lookin,,,, 
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Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 6:22am |
Well I been thinkin the past few day yer question Joe, an I don't know what he's up to neither. But the only thing that comes to mind is ole Hubert.
You see those boys like Tyler an Hubert been teasing ole Shameless you know. An ole Shameless can't get thet machine to drift that pretty all the way down to the great state of Georgia. An maybe this is the boost he's lookin for?
So I figure since I'm a fair man an would share my pretty with Tyler an Hubert, I'm gonna let ole Shameless have this windmill, cause I'm curious what he can do with it.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 7:27am |
Shameless, it's a Baker mill. I've had it quite a long time. It's one I was gonna restore but never did. It'/s all here but disassembled, the new parts are here with assembly instructions but never put together. It's yours fer free if you want it.
Baker mills were around these parts but were not that common here. They were made over in Illinois, I think. The well companies back in the day mostly used what was manufactured locally, and the aeromotor windmills were made in Nebraska so they were more common in these parts. You can tell the brand of a mill mostly by the shape of it's tail, An the Baker mill had a square tail. I wanted to erect this Baker mill mainly because it was different than what everybody else had. But this other mill came along that was ready to go, so the Baker mill just remained on the werk bench unassembled to this day.
Ray is correct, If you don't do the maintenence on the mill if will self destruct. It has oil in the crankcase. And once a year a climb has to be made up the 40 foot tower to change the oil. There is no combustion, so there is no contamination found in the oil, so it looks as fresh as the day you put it in. The reason you drain it is you will find water in the oil. Condensation that forms inside the head needs to be drained out. And for some reason it's always a quart low. I was told that if you continue to run it low on oil and eventually gets low on oil enough that it fails to lubricate the main shaft. And the shaft will crystallize and break, and the entire wheel will come off, plunging 40 feet to it's death.
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I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 7:49am |
The reason I installed the mill that I did is because of it's history. The mill I have came from the original site of the Mills County Pony Express station. All that was left of the station was a brick fireplace and chimney, as the rest of the structure had fallen down around it, and the mill. Today, none of it is left as the land was cleared and a new home was built there.
But when I took down the mill, and decommissioned the well, I observed something I had never seen before or since. I could tell this well was drilled by a merry-go-round. A horse drawn well machine that spun the machine around in circles by a team of horses. You could still see the swirl marks left in the sides of the well made by the machine. These was no casing. No bricks or anything to hold up the sidewalls of the well. The diameter was large. 40 inches across, and very deep 125 feet. It took a lot of gravel to fill. I dreamed of what it was like in its day, mail arriving by horse. I was saddened in a way, taking part in erasing history, as no future generations will ever know what took place here.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 8:03am |
The mill at sunset looking west
Edited by Les Royer - 27 Oct 2018 at 8:05am
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Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 8:22am |
WOW,,Les,,thas a great shot of times gone by,,,it's too bad some of the things that just fade in the distance,,,, SDo,,it must of been the "hard work" of having to climb the tower to do maintenance on the gearbox,,what a couple of times a year,,,,huh,,?? But I agree most people do want the easy things in life,,but the cheap ones,,,,er,,,,UMmmmm,,,the frugal ones,,,yeah thas it,,the frugal people don't mind a little enjoyment and still climb the towers and,,,,and,,,save a few bucks,,,yeah,,,you won't see this guy stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime,,,,,,chit,, I'll pick em both up,,,,,,
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Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 8:49am |
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Les, that one is a beauty! Tracy
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Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 9:06am |
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Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 3:40pm |
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I agree, a beautiful pic!! What's with all the fence posts just stickin in the ground? Is that where you is marking all of your money tins?
I've always wanted one to put into operation. Just in case of the big explosion.
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Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 8:13pm |
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I don't recall, Ted. But I'm thinking it was posts fer some pole beans in the garden
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Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 8:14pm |
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Well Shameless? Are we meetin at uncle Bucks again?
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Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 8:52pm |
Shameless is going to need one BIG windmill if'n he gits me with that machine. I'll go hide out at the farm and he won't knows where I am.
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Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 8:53pm |
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That is one beautiful picture! Thanks for sharing.
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Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 10:45pm |
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I thought maybe Shameless wanted to be Don't Quixote.
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Posted: 29 Oct 2018 at 9:40am |
I would like to have a windmill, but not that tall. I've seen windmills in Florida that were only 12 to 15' tall.
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 6:18pm |
 Ray54 wrote:
Not many want to climb up and do the maintenance. An the young like the modern new stuff. Only when its gone do we miss what use to be.
But Farm Collector magazine that just came had story on windmill museum in Texas. An a 23 year old kid that already has a bunch and fixing more. |
Been to that museum very interesting place. Lots and lots of windmills.
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Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 3:00pm |
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Yes I've always wanted one but at my age it sure wouldn't be very high in the air
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Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 11:29pm |
I'm baffled... Some people go to great lengths to buy a beat up, tangled-up 80-year-old Aermotor from a farm, and restore it to use...
There's a gal in California who drives all over the midwest to buy up old 'mills... and she re-sells them for 5-6 grand...
Aermotor is still in business, selling the same product, yet updated with modern sealed bearings, in stronger castings, better alloys... but totally same look outside, and the whole kit starts well under 2 grand...
Now... windmill size and height is all pretty simple: it's about how much wind you have available at a given elevation above ground... and how much WIND POWER you need in order to lift the volume of water, the distance (height) you require.
Florida windmills are low, because your water table is about ten inches below the ground... that doesn't take much power to make that lift. In western Kansas, you're lifting over 300' from the Ogallala Aquifer in many places. You may have lots of wind, but there's hills up high, so it might take more tower to make that reach.
Both Florida and Kansas have high wind. Florida, though, has hurricane forces. Best not to have a large windmill turbine for that... and a really strong furling mechanism... generally a manual override on the furler so you can just lock it down for a few weeks... but keeping the tower short keeps the structure strong. in areas with tall trees (places in Iowa and Pennsylvania) having a tower tall enough to get the turbine above the treetops is mandatory... at least... if you're planning on actually pumping water.
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Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 5:17am |
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I used to go up and pull the brake lever, which swings the tail and applies the brake whenever a strong wind is in the forecast but I don't anymore. They are self regulated. If a strong wind comes up they somehow do that all by themselves. And I don't make the climb to service it. There are a couple others around that makes it worthwhile for a guy to come by and for $85 per year, he does it for me. I'm not going to risk falling off the dang thing to save 85 bucks. What I found interesting was that the brake never wears out. I asked how that is possible and he said that the brake and the the drum it rubs against are two different metals. one is steel and one is cast iron. I never heard of such a thing. You would think one would be a softer metal than the other.
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Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 6:51am |
HMMmmm,,thas an interestin observation,,Les. One would think that one of the pieces has to be the sacrificial piece that is easier/ cheeper to be replaced. There has to be some wear from the constant friction,,but maybe there isn't any actual contact,,,?? Maybe, maybe,,maybe,,,,Chit I ain't a windmill guy,,I'm just very curious bout them things,,,just bein curious,,, I've just always liked the thought and idea of a windmill and since we do not have water or electricity at the place up in the mountains,,,,I was just thinkin out loud,,,,, when I was still workin, and during the annual Shutdowns, I always got assigned to the 268' TCC tower that is WAY UP THERE,,,!!! The stairs ended at the halfway level and it was all ladder from there up to the top. Heights have never bothered me and is sure a beautiful sight of the whole town and then some from up there,,,,,Chit,,a 40' windmill would be a walk in the park for old Joe,,,,,
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Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 11:45pm |
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I climbed a mobile phone tower once just to see what it was like, (was lots younger then) it sure was pretty up there, could see for....well a long ways! it didn't have any ladder on it, had to use the support pipes. that little red blinky light on top is bigger than you think! yeah Les...i'll take it! will it fit on my flatbed pickup? can you show me a pic of the pile so I know if I need to brings a trailer or not? that pic you showed us is a pretty one. you should enter that pic in your state magazine photo contest.
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Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 11:48pm |
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yeah Les....we need to meet up at uncle bucks again!
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Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 1:18am |
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I know 1 went from Clarke County Iowa to Tennessee about 25-30 years ago. Dad sold it to some fellow out there. Mom and dad heard that it was never stood up after they got it out there. Guy rented a truck and trailer to haul it. It was complete, even had the wooden pump rod. I was always gonna climb it but pop said no. Back in the day when he said no, that was it, no whining and sniveling like you see in Squallmart today.
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